Reading Eclipse: Chapter 2 (Evasion)

October 23rd, 2008 at 12:02 am by Kaleb Nation

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The curious thing about taking a rest in the middle of the day is that sometimes, you simply do not wake up as soon as you had planned. Obviously, having been tired out from not doing my Calculus, I took a nap intended to be short and woke up 4 hours later: still not having read another chapter in Eclipse. Goes to show I need to either get more sleep, or seriously consider becoming one of those vampire folk.

I find Charlie so amusing. It is so very obvious what he wants, and that is for Bella to forget about Edward, fall deeply in love with Jacob, and make Billy Black, his best friend, also his relative through Bella’s marriage. It is the epitome of a dream wedding for Charlie: except for the fact that the bride doesn’t want to marry Jacob. She wants Edward Cullen, whom Charlie despises and has no qualms with making unwelcome in his house. This is understandable. As previously stated, Bella is insanely in love with Edward — Charlie’s observations stop at the ‘insane’ part.

Charlie, later on, attempts a rather awkward attempt at conversation with Bella about her and Edward’s developing … erm … relationship. I can think of many things Charlie would rather talk about, including:

1. Ingrown Toenails

2. Leprosy

3. The Blobfish

but he seemed absolutely determined to exercise his parental role and give Bella a good talking to. Not like he got much of anywhere (except the resulting chortles and chuckles coming from yours truly).

“Just tell me that you two are being responsible,” Charlie pled, obviously wishing a pit would open in the floor so that he could fall in.

If anything, the title of this chapter is exactly what Bella was practicing; and quite well I might add:

I sprinted for the stairs.

Good move Bella.

For Edward to so forcefully try to convince Bella to go see her mother tells me all is not well in Forks. It makes me wonder — what is happening in that town that makes him so intent on having her out of there that weekend? Even Bella notices it, and so I am wondering if he knows something we do not… something that Alice saw, perhaps? Maybe he hopes to convince Bella to leave town for that weekend, and avoid whatever it is that Alice had predicted.

I will admit that sometimes, I do not agree with what Edward does. Please, steady your nooses, blunderbusses and guillotines, comrades. The fact is that Edward intentionally sabotaged Bella’s truck so that she could not leave, and that is something than can be taken two ways. Many people might think that Edward, by doing this, is pretty much forcing Bella to do what he wants, rather than what she wants. So what if she wants to see Jacob? Does Edward really have a right to tell her not to?

However, what causes me to trust Edward is the fact that because he is a vampire, and because he knows so many things through Alice that Bella does not, he is probably acting in a way to protect Bella. He nearly lost her once, and probably is paranoid about losing her again. But it makes me wonder where the line is drawn? Is Edward really acting to keep Bella safe, or is it to keep Bella from La Push? One is in Bella’s best interest, but the other is in Edward’s.

I haven’t read far enough to know for sure what his motivation is for this, but it seems that Edwards has been overwhelmingly unselfish so far, and I don’t know why he would change now. That is why I still believe that he is doing this to protect her… and perhaps a tiny bit of his own selfish loathing towards Jacob, who has been trying to steal his girl for some time now. Edward may not be human, but he is still a man

QUESTION FOR THE COMMENTS: Do you think Edward has gone too far by sabotaging Bella’s truck, or is he just doing his best to protect her?

——NOTES——

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Tags: Bella Swan, Charlie Swan, Eclipse, Edward, La Push, Truck

Die Hard Twi-Hard

I think he is trying his best to protect her like you said he almost lost her once and he doesn't want to risk losing her again.

Rheema

Edward is becoming very possesive about bella , I think he must give her some space.

Maandacs

Edward is just acting out for Bella's best interests and safety...I would probably do the same if i knew something will happen thru a sister like Alice. Cant blame him, he waited for so long and every chance of her getting hurt is not even a question to ask whether he should or should not?Maybe he is also acting out a little for personal reasons, but wouldn't you if you have the power to do so?

Rosa

Omg, that Blobfish is REALLY NASTY!
:S

Nicole

It is in the interest that Bella does not get hurt. But Also I think that Edward is a little jealous of Jacob. Because in Twilight Edward does say he is still a man even though he is not human.

Danielle

Yeah1 I really need to revise thing anyway I just forgot to add the two buts (Wired?).

Well, I don't think he's gone that far, I mean he can put the car back together.....somehow? I don't know, but having Alice distracting her by doing her dress-up things, now that is too far (but it would be cool for Alice to that to me!). So he's just protecting her in my case and he didn't go to far.... but I would get a little angry if he did that to my car.

Danielle

Well, I don't think he's gone that far, I mean he can put the car back together.....somehow? I don't know, having Alice distracting her by doing her dress-up things, now that is too far (It would be cool for Alice to that to me!). So he's just protecting her in my case and he didn't go to far.... but I would get a little angry if he did that to my car.

ummhedaya

Although I may not agree whole heartily with what Edward did, we must remember that he is in fact 110 years old and has seen more terrifying things than most... he truly knows the danger possibilities better than Bella... but still, he is new to love... he's just gotta figure out the balance... Bella makes him act over-protective because he knows, all too well, how breakable she really is.

Alex

I know Edward is trying to protect Bella, but I think there is a distinct line in a relationship between trying to do what's best and being controling, and I think he crossed that line when he sabotaged the truck.

Impy

i believe he did go a little too far with the truck, id hurt my bf if he did something like that, but i wouldnt really do anything except tell him im going to see my friends wether he likes it or not, its not like edward would leave bella anyways, he's totally in love with her

dhriti sharma

luv u meyer.........im dyin 2 read midnyt sun

Sandra

IT was wrong for him to do but he just did it for her protection.. he doesn't know Jacob or his pack so therefore he did whatever he could to keep Bella from going to LaPush. He just doesn't want to lose her again and feel like he could of done something to prevent it.

sally

i dont know about this yet bcuz i aint got the book but my friend does and she doesnt know i finished new moon and it is sunday so tommorow at school im going to tell her and then she will give the book eclipse 2 me and i will make my own website and type the book for everyone 2 see. it will be called the twilight book collection and you could read the entire book for free online. which includes twilight,new moon,eclipse,breaking dawn,and the first chapter of midnight sun.

br

edward is going overbard but he is protecting her but its still wrong

Bella

Ya.

TEAM EDWARD RULEZ!!!

~Bella

Briana

I think that you can not expect anything different from Edward at this point, I also think it was kind of funny that he disconnected her truck. He just wants to keep her safe, and he will do whatever he has to now to not lose her again. Edward knows too well the risk of werewolves, and even if Bella and Jacob do not see a risk, what if there was one? Sometimes I am scared that Jacob can't hold his anger together when Edward is being talked about.

Just my thoughts, I don't think he is being paraniod. I think he is just looking at what he can do to keep her safe, I mean she is a magnet for trouble right?

Gothhic Goddess

I have been in a relationship where a guy would constantly "go too far" but it was only "for my own good".

And when I read how Edward was doing this, I got mad at not only him, but Bella too. She doesn't try very hard to get him to see her side, in fact she gives up almost right away. I think he went too far with that move, and that she didn't go far enough.

And yes, Edward is a bit paranoid, but come off it dude, you left her on her own, with a shattered heart, for how long?

Just my thoughts.

Poppy

oh if he did that to me i wouldnt care i love him too much n hes just trying to protect her i mean hes in love with her i mean like what if the person u trul truly are in love with disapears from the future i know i would be freaked out and make sure it didnt happen again so i think hes just very protective which i think is very very cute bless him. xxxx

Oreo

Are you kidding?? I think Edward did awesome in destroying Bella's uglu truck. Who needs that thing anyway.

babybott330

I'm so late into this!! I'll give Team Jacob this one pass: Edward definitely fell into the creepy Bella stalker territory with the truck disabling move. He got the idea from Charlie, though. Haha!

Amanda

Sabotizing her truck was a little bit too much, but it's not like he wasn't doing it for her own good. It could have been worse...

Ruby

well.... the sabotizing of the truck was too much!! but there also is a fact we have to clearout!!

you don't give up your friends for the person you love, BUT and this is a big BUT PEOPLE! you do give up your "other" love interests for the person you love!!!

And Dear Jake is deffinitly a LOVE INTEREST!! Bella was allmost about to let herself be with jake in New Moon - Don't forget that. Jacob is VERY interested in her and in some way (not nearly as much as with Edward) she also wants Jacob.

I haven't read any further in this book, so I don't know what's coming.

Many Twilight fans either hates or loves jacob or Edward... i hate the entire Love triangle!! Not the persons! i feel grateful for the fact that both Edward and Jacob loves Bella so much and wishes to Protect her. I am in no possible position to hate them for what they do, because no matter what they do, they do it because of the love they have for Bella... and that is reason enough even if what they do is stupid!! Bella needs to choose between them - And that IS a tough choice (a person that roots for either Edward or Jacob might have a problem realizing that) but she just has to. And that is why I never can and never will hate Bella either.

Hugs to you all ^^

Clara Renee

you NEED to have your song for eclipse be "almost lover" by A Fine Frenzy

P.S. I can't tell (or maybe am in denial) which team are you Edward or Jacob?

Brenna

I think Edward's reaction needs to be looked at from both angles. From Bella's perspective, yes, Edward went too far by prohibiting her from going to La Push. But from Edward's perspective (and my opinion as well) Edward was just protecting her.

I mean, he DOES know considerably more than Bella about the supernatural, so we cant say he's just stupid. He has reasons, and has obviously thought this all through.

I personally dont think his reasonings are just Jacob that Edward has a problem with, but rather his location. As we all know Edward cant cross the line, so if something did happen to Bella while she was with Jacob, Edward wouldn't know, and couldnt just pop in to check on the two, which scares him. Actually, I think Edward would ABSOLUTLEY cross the line for her, which scares him too. He doesnt want to have to even think about doing something that would put his family in danger as well as Bella, so he resorts to avoiding the situation all together.

summer nicole

see, this is why i'm team jacob.
well, scratch that.
i'm actually team jasper.
but that's beside the point.
the reason i don't like edward cullen is that, if you stripped away all his good looks and vampire powers, no respectable girl would ever want to go out with him.
he's emotionally abusive (if you think this is false, look up the definitions and signs of emotional abuse), and a stalker.
i mean, it kind of makes me sick over the fact that some girls swoon about him creeping into Bella's room and watching her sleep when she had now idea he was there.
and, also, his character is just so bland.
smeyer had the chance to really develop some of the other guys, and she chose not to, making edward a gary stu and building bella and edward's realtionship on lust, not love.
the series would have been so much better if bella left edward for jasper (or even jacob!) after edward left in new moon. :)

twilightobsessedtwilighter

I'm Team Jasper too... personally, I would have done what Bella did- shut the window and tape a sign on it saying "DO NOT TALK TO ME UNTIL I SAY SO" I mean, I love Edward (Jasper and Emmett are my fave though) but if he took apart MY truck, he would have gotten in a lot more trouble than he would have ever imagined. Yeah, it IS kind of creepy that he watches her sleep- I mean what if she puts a hidden camera in her room or something? Majorly creepy. And then there's the "I-hate-you-but-now-I-like-you" with Jake. I mean seriously. I don't blame bella and Edward for the imprint-nessie thing (I would have come after Jake with a crow bar and all of my vamp powers, but that's just me.).
I wouldn't want Bella with Jasper- poor Alice- and not Jake. Actually, I thought it was a little funny watching Bella have this nervous breakdown. But I would have made Eddie beg on his knees for leaving me.
Girls like Edward because to some of us, protectiveness makes us feel important. And if he wasn't a vampire, there is no way he would have been able to get in the window without waking Bells up, so therefore he would'nt have tried. And having a guy read your mind? Awkward...

ILOVE YOU JASPER! EMMETT! SETH! CARLISLE! And u 2 Eddie... just don't EVER piss me off again like you did in NM...

E

Just thought I'd add(over a week later) that I still love Edward. Jacob, Edward, AND Bella all behave badly in this book. I still love them all, in fact... if you're holding out for the perfect fictional character, you've picked up a really boring book. *Rolling eyes*

Scott

As a guy who is reading this book for the first time I feel Edward is going to far. Yes Jacob is a werewolf but Alice was absolutely wrong with her vision of Bella jumping off the cliff and who was there to save her but Jacob. Best friends are a big deal and it's to much for a boyfriend/girlfriend to ask to keep them apart. And come on it's not like the Cullen home is some safe haven Bella was almost killed by Jasper there just a few months back. I think that Edward feels it is for Bella's best intrest and protection and not some sort of ownership issue but he is blinded by his own love for her and his predjudices of the werewolves to see the situation clearly. And to comment on what was said above me I don't think Jacob would stop her if he could because he had that chance when she took off to Italy and let her go, because he loved her and wouldn't stop her from doing what her heart desired.

Mandy

Everyone has brought up some really good points like.
A) If it were the other way around Jacob wouldn't let Bella see Edward.
B) Edward does it all for her safety, which he makes clear, and he knows that crippling her truch would make her mad, so he gives her the option to not see him. I don't think it was too overprotective because you know that Edward believes the risk Jacob is, he doesn't complain about people like Angela and Mike. Of course my reasoning may just be because I favor Edward over Jacob. And people are right, have you noticed how Bella always forgives Jacob, no matter what he says about Edward and his family Bella forgives him, so she should forgive Edward for his overreaction, he overreacts a lot. I think its overreacting but not overprotection.

I would definatly kill for a few men as gentlemanly as Edward. It is a little condescending how he calls he 'love' all the time, but I kinda like it. I wish that my boyfriend would call me a name like that now and again.

Carrie

I don't think Edward went too far. Just look at the scenario from his point of view. Werewolves are their natural enemies, juvenile werewolves are especially dangerous, Alice had a frightening vision involving Bella, Edward already thought he lost Bella once. It's not like he permanently damaged her truck. Plus, later on in the book he becomes the most understanding bf in the world. At this point, I don't think he's jealous of her relationship w/ Jake because I don't think it has occurred to him that there's anything more than friendship between them. For those who think Edward & Bella's relationship is unhealthy, this is supposed to be an all-consuming true love kind of thing that most people have never experienced. Not to mention, the drama is always heightened because he's a vamp and Bella's life always seems to be in danger.

TEAMEDWARD(:

Edward was being slightly obsurd; but he's only doing what he thinks is right for Bella. I;m actually more angry at Bella for thinking about Jacob so much. Not that I dont think Jacob is a great guy. She's saying she loves Edward but is also falling for Jacob. How can she keeping kidding herself like that?

JKS

wow that last line was deep
yea he did go to far by sabotaging the truck. he needs to back off because Bella is going to get what she wants somehow.

Bekah

No Edward didn't go far enough!!!! If he had done more like that then Bella... (the rest of this sentence has been censored because of spoilers.) Breath bekah. It's okay. It worked out all right. Breathe in, breath out.

ale

well, i know practically everyone will want to kill me, but.. i have to say it.. he DID went to far.. I mean.. i know.. alice culdn't saw her future and stuff.. but... she culdn't saw any danger arround forks either.. i mean.. we've all read the series.. Edward is not stupid... he.. as well as all of us at this point.. know that that heppens because.. the futures of bella and Jacob.. were going to be.. well.. conected or something.. Maybe AT FIRST.. he was really concerned about her.. but i think that.. even if he tries to denie it.. he is totally jealous of Jacob.. mainly because he KNOWS that Bella would be better of with Jacob.. Even wen is not actually whan she.. needs..

katie dunn

yea, i think edward went WAYYYYYYYY too far when he sabotaged bella's truck. it it were me there, i would have went to the jugular... with my nails... even though he was supposed to be my boyfriend... and his skin is like granite...

too bad for him though...
i'd dump him for emmett!!!

Brittney

I think Edward went a little overboard this time. I mean just because Bella hangs out with vampires doesn't mean she doesn't have free will. If she wants to talk to Jacob her best friend then I think she should.

But then again Edward knows what is best for her. Which makes me think of him as her father in some ways, not Charlie Swan but just a fatherly figure, trying too hard to MAKE her do the thing he wants her to do even though she desires to do something else. I mean what is a little chat with Jacob going to do?

Lucinda H

To answer your question, I am going to have to combine the two. I think that Edward went too far by trying to do his best to protect her. He needed to realize that she is capable of making her own decisions on what is right for her. He doesn't give her enough credit in the beginning of this book.

Wendilynn

absolutely Edward went to far. We all know this. We also know that Edward is prone to over-reaction where Bella's safety is concerned. We also forgive him just like Bella does because we know how important she is to him.

I love this book. I love it when they are talking in her kitchen and he takes her face in his hands and talks about how important she is to him. Men just don't talk like that, but they need to. We need them to.

Peeves

When i read that part i want speechless and i forgot to breath when Edward did that. I think He should calm down with Jacob becoming a werewolf because when he Edward was gone in New Moon Jacob hadn't hurt Bella physically at all.

Johno

also, to the question, you know he must know something more than bella does. after all, he does have his sixth sense...

Johno

"- Someone recommended Overprotected by Britney Spears for this chapter. In order to avoid my already imminent hanging, I declined."

thank you very much kaleb. i might have also hung myself if you would have done that...

Val

Okay, if I stepped into Edward's mind for a sec to put aside the hate and loathing for Jacob, I'd see that I were dealing with a very young WEREWOLF. Somewhere in my past I'd see that werewolves are dangerous if they were IN control of their actions... So baby wolf + a defenseless Bella? I think Edward was trying to protect Bella more than just keep her away from Jacob.

I have to admit, I found Charlie amusing in this chapter. :)

Nicole

Well, i do think he did go overboard, but Edward is pretty pessimistic. And he's just a little more since what happened since he left. His motives are legit, but he does go a bit overboard.
Ahaha, Britney Spears...

Samantha

P.S. Thanks for declining Britney Spears for this chapter...I would lose my mind if you had.

Samantha

I personally think he went way too far with sabotaging Bella's truck. It is pretty obvious he is jealous of Jacob, but since he has been so unselfish in the past, he can still claim what he does is for Bella's protection. Nevertheless, it's clear that he loves her regardless of what he does, and that's a redeemable quality in my book!

nekotheninja

i LOVED when he messed with her truck. i thought it was hilarious.

Kgirl

Edward is way too overprotective. He is also very controlling. I mean look at him-he takes parts out of her truck to stop her from leaving. He tries to force her to go see her mom. Everything they do is always his choice. She rarely ever decides what they do. He lies too. At the end of Twilight he promises he will stay with her, but then he leaves in New Moon. He tries to KILL HIMSELF when he thinks she was dead. Suicide is not romantic. I think Edward needs to stop being so controlling. It may be for her own good, but it is still wrong. And it hurts her. Edward not letting her see Jacob hurts her. If he's trying to keep her from getting hurt, and yet that is hurting her, he should not be doing it.

Emalee

I think it was a bit of both, like protection gone WAY overboard.

devz30

Oh, and by the w ay, I totally agree with megan ^_^ (comment #122)

devz30

"...Edward has been overwhelmingly unselfish so far"
Maybe that's why I wasn't so annoyed with what Edward did. At least be selfish for once. ok that sounds weird. But I don't think he went too far. It was for Bella's own good, anyway....but thinking of it in Bella's POV, I would have been irritated.

Cara

Nah, he's just trying to keep her safe. While he is going a bit too far, it's all in the best intentions.

Shelly

I think that Edward was just trying to protect Bella. Yes, it may have been a little DRAMATIC but, really? Have you seen the girl? She's a walking disater waiting to happen half the time and the fact that Alice's visions cut off when she's going to see Jacob, who's a WEREWOLF, I believe he has every right to be overprotective. He's already almost lost her once, he doesn't want that to happen again.
Your observations are dead on once again by the way lol XD

oh, and the blobfish made me full on throw my head back and laugh. So funny... and slightly distrubing..

Sarah

VERY good observations.

The first time I read it, I didn't understand. I had to read it three times before my brain convinced itself that YES, Edward seriously just broke Bella's truck. As for his reasons...you have it down - that is, both of them.

Brianna J.

i thinmk it's hilarious that he took apart her car. i don't know if he really went to far, because he certainly would have had a reason for it. can't wait for the next chapter!

Noelle

I honestly think that it's both. He really really wants to protect her, but he's overprotective. But then again I have to remind myself that it's not without good reason! Is it Bella after all. Anyone who can find a vampire boyfriend and then a werewolf best friend need someone to protect them, don't you think?

Megan

No I don't think he's gone too far.

Bella's plenty selfish throughout this book, nothing compared to Edward is right now. None of us can put ourselves in that situation. Bella almost got devoured by a sadistic vampire in the first book, then they both lost each other physically and emotionally in the next (during which Bella decides to cliff dive and reckless motorcycling .. with JACOB) and you expect Edward not to be over protective? Bella has many faults and it seems Edward has had none in the past books, he is the epitome of 'perfect' in Bella's and most reader's eyes, and so now he has one fault by being a little over protective and everyone jumps on him for that...

Like, chill. I love Edward.
He can do no wrong. xD

Jessie

As this is a much-pondered question on my part, I have my answer all ready and formulated for you:

Did Edward go too far?
No.
From his knowledge, Jacob is extremely unsafe for Bella.
Now, his actions could be misconstrued as abusive (and often are) but...
the deciding factor is Edward's INTENTIONS.
Were he intending to be abusive, then Bella would probably want to get some help.
But-
his actions are always for Bella's good... and we all saw what happened the last time harm came to Bella.
So...
No, I don't think so.

kristen

I really didn't like Edware, Bella, or Jacob in this book. They all did very questionable things. But I think we all can be that way when situations arise that we don't quite know how to handle.

Edward was really overreacting in this chapter and that was wrong but he is trying to figure out how to handle the situation and is willing to improve when he realizes his mistakes.
Bella is very unwilling to look at herself in this book and that cause alot of problems for all of them. She really is the problem in this book not Edward and Jacob!
Jacob in this book also really crosses the line in one of these chapters and his actions are as bad if not worse than what Edward did to the truck. Lets not forget about that! So for me, both guys didn't act very well in this book. But no fear it all works out very well in the end for all of them.

Edward, Bella, and Jacob are all wonderful characters we just get to see other sides of them in this book. I really enjoyed that.

Rachel

Everyone looks at it from the perspective of would it be ok in real life if a boyfriend sabotaged your vehicle, in real life no. but this isn't a normal situation. It's a reasonable reaction for an extreme situation. The real issue is in real life would it be ok with you if your boyfriend/girlfriend/husband/wife wanted to keep a friendship with someone who hates you and who is in love with your significant other and don't hide the fact that they're after more than friendship through any means necessary. Now consider that this person also has a record of breaking into uncontrollable violent rages.

Now look at Edward and Bella's relationship. Edward has two legitimate reasons for telling Bella to stay away from Jacob 1. Both he and bella know Jacob wants more than just a friendship. and 2. He's potentially dangerous.

Now to the first reason, to those who've said Edward's stopping her from going to see a 'friend' it's more than that. If Bella was going to hang out with mike or Angela, he wouldn't stop her. Unlike what some people have been claiming here Edward does not try to limit Bella's social life. Normally he's the one encouraging her to have other relationships, even relationships that could develop into more. In a normal relationship if your partner refused to give a "friend" like Jacob it would be potential grounds for breakup/divorce on the first reason alone. Now add to that the fact that Edward, as a vampire, is incapable of ever falling out of love with Bella. In many ways he is the one most trapped by this relationship. Yet even with that he's not only willing that Bella should find someone else to love he encourages it. Edward is the only one who'd be left completely devastated if that happened. If this were a normal relationship than for the first reason Edward has the right as a boyfriend to ask Bella to stay away from Jacob. And it would be selfish to try to continue a relationship like the one between Bella and Jacob. But Edward doesn't object to the relationship on those grounds even though he has every right. He objects for the second reason, b/c he's worried for Bella's safety. Because he loves her that much. To him having Bella leave him and love someone else would be hell but he'd endure it, but to have her die... that he couldn't stand.

Imani

Hello Kaleb, I think that Edward did the right thing in his mind because he is trying to protect, Bella from possibly dissapearing forever and/or what Alice saw. However I also think that 10% of his motive for sabatoge is a little jealous toward Jacob because for one he is at least half human.

Heather

Wowwww Jessica L., have you read the books? If you had, then you would realize that Edward doesn't think like that at all, in the slightest.

And as for Jacob being a healthier choice for Bella, it's not true. Because there was always that threat of imprinting, and now because of Breaking Dawn, it's a MOOT point (haha Kaleb).

Kristen

Edward is just protecting Bella from the werewolves. He knows how dangerous they are if they lose their tempers.

:D

diana

everyone seems to be forgetting that jake and bella are not just friends.not too far back in new moon she was about to break down and replace edward with jacob.obviously edward being edward will do whatever he has to do to protect bella if her future disappears.im surprised in eclipse how much freedom edward allows bella to spend with another guy.he is her boyfriend after all(and stephjenie agrees)and its outrageous the way bella keeps getting angry at her boyfriend for expecting her loyalty and cooperation and how she never gets mad at jacob no matter how rotten he is to edward.if jake was just a friend it would be different but he clearly wants more than that from bella.

Jessica L.

Don't even get me started on Edward taking Bella's truck down. *shakes head* I've been through this a million times and I know I'll have to go through it a million more.

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES! HE DID! Can't he understand that Bella has her own mind and her own friends and needs some time to be with those friends. I mean, if Edward really wants to be with her forever, shouldn't he be more open to the things that Bella wants to do now, while she still can as a human? Edward's just being selfish and forcing Bella to do what he wants in a way that is FAR past overprotective.

Jacob is a healthy escape for Bella and I think we all know it, deep down. He's there for her, as a friend, though he wants to be more. Personally, I think Bella's to blame for this since she completely played him on for a while, but whatever. Bella deserves to get out and have some fun. It would be different if Jacob was just the only one in La Push, but the entire La Push pack, come on? What's going to get that far past them? Can't Edward get out of that perfect little place in his head where he's the greatest thing and believe that other people can protect his "precious" Bella too?

Jess

Dude. I love Edward Cullen, ok? Don't get mad. But seriously? If you wanted to go visit your best friend who you haven't seen in weeks, and then your boyfriend (or girlfriend, i guess) busted your car ON PURPOSE. Of course he can put it back together, but my God. Overreaction much??

Sarah W.

Oh well Heather, we'll have to agree to disagree then. I still forgive him, though :)

Twifanatic Amanda

nah, even if he did she'll forgive him.

Janelle

I feel like Edward's acting in her best interests & to keep her safe, but as a girl who doesn't take well to feeling controlled & ordered around when I'm capable of running my own life & making my own decisions, I'd be furious if a boyfriend did such things to me.

Heather

To Sarah W.:

Every single character in Eclipse does stupid things. Edward can't find a medium. Bella keeps hurting everyone. Jacob is too forceful. They are all at fault. Edward does overreact, but it's because he loves her so much and he wants what's best for her, whether he's included or not. It's got nothing to do with the fact that he's supernatural or that he sparkles or that Bella's a danger magnet. He is trying to help her, he just can't figure out the best way.

I'll argue and defend other characters whenever their faults come up in Eclipse =)

Sarah W.

#88 Chelsea: Yeah, I understand his motivations, too (as all of us here, do too) BUT that doesn't mean what he did was right. It was actually very wrong. There just isn't any excuse. Sorry. I don't care how supernatural their love is, or how B and E are each others' worlds, or that Edward sparkles, OR that Bella is a 'Danger Magnet,' there just isn't anything that made how Edward treated Bella right. I understand his motivations and and fears very well, though. He just didn't go about addressing them in the right manner. I supppose he couldn't help it though, seeing how Meyer gave him the tragic flaw of overreaction. Still, I was quite put out with Edward during most of Eclipse, even after he let Bella do as she wished, which is why it's not my favorite book. It took me awhile to forgive him. But I won't forget what he did. He is not the only character, fortunately who showed their uglier side in the book, so it was fair on both sides. After reading this, you may find it surprising that EDWARD IS MY FAVE CHARACTER! Only because Bella annoys me to NO end. (In every single book. Literally.) As for Jacob, well he is tied for fave character, too. What makes me like them most is that their flaws make them most human, no how far away they are from it. I just don't always like the consequences of those flaws.

beckysue

Well.....First off let me say I cracked up when you were all afraid that people were going to hurt you for speaking (mildly) bad things of Edward. Yeah, that was halarious.

But, since your number is undoubtably up with your transgression, it was probably quite wise of you to refrain from putting Brittany Spears as the song............ That could result in unecessary torture.

Also, the blobfish is scary. *shudders*

Well, now on to your question: I do find it to be over the limit, but I know that it wasn't done intentionally. He is completely worried for her and yeah, is completly jealous of Jacob. It reminds me of when Charlie dinked with her truck earlier. And he really thinks that she could get seriously hurt while there (Lord knows that she's been seriously hurt before.........)

Erin

Um... I can't answer the question. Not really at least, because I hate Jake anyways. If Edward kept him out of the book just this much longer, then go him.
Also, I just wanted to tell Charlie this part (as I laughed my head off), that, gee, she's been grounded. Stuck at the house. And Charlie was right there everytime Edward was near her: besides school. There was no time for them to be doing anything. Besides that night. When, huh, Esme and Carlilse were home. Imagine that...
Okay, I'm done being sarcastic. I love Charlie, he's one of my favorite characters in the series. But, seriously... he's so... stupid/naive sometimes. Well, not stupid... more blonde. I don't know.
Happy reading!

Liz

To answer your question: To me as much as I love Edward I think thats a little much. But hey that at least means he loves her. :)

Erika

good move on declining Britney Spears' song, Overprotected :)

Shannah

Edward is an overprotective stalker FREAK. And like someone said, he may love her and blah blah blah but she isn't his little puppet that should have to do whatever he wants for whatever stupid reason.
The first time I read the part where he tore her truck apart I was pissed because umm... HELLO? He's the one who left Bella, and Jacob's the one who fixed her, so if she wants to hang out with Jacob then jeez louise let her do it! Be GLAD she has someone like that! But nnoooooo Edward is just an ungrateful little wretch. Like, seriously.. I bet as a human he would have been a woman beater. He needs to get some help. Of course, this is a fictional character I'm talking about..

Sorry, major ranting.
Ya'll can yell at me if you want to.

daylet

great pick on the song. i love skillet, is my favorite band.

Amy H.

Thank goodness this is all fiction! I LOVE Edward, but nothing would turn me off more than this kind of behavior in real life. If this were real, it would be one seriously unhealthy relationship! Not just from Edward's side - they are both pretty ridiculous. (Opening the window, having a full on break-down when he leaves in NM, then just forgiving and forgetting in a ten second epiphany, etc.)

Sadly, for some people, this type of insecure, jealous behavior by a partner is "real life". Someone mistaking jealousy and control for love is tragic. Too many teenage girls make this mistake. (And adult women as well.) In the Twilight world I am a full-on Edward girl, but in the real world a guy like Jacob would be a much healthier choice. Even healthier would be focusing on yourself, learning to be ok without a man, getting an education, travelling, becoming a more interesting person, etc.

Thank goodness it's fiction because I just get to LOVE Edward without consequence and with my feminist sensibilities still intact!

Jessica

Umm, me and my friends actually had a discussion about Edward today on this subject.

If you really think about it (I love Edward mind you) he is sorta stalker-ish. Okay now before all of you hunt me down and kill me let me explain myself.

He like watches Bella through her window...umm girls seriously if some guy is doing that to you you REALLY need to realize that's weird. If it was anyone but Edward we ALL know we would be calling the cops. Then again all Bella has to do is scream down the hall but whatever.

Now knowing that Edward and Bella are like you know perfect together this is fine. But think about what it was like in the beginning. When she didn't know she was being watched...

Anyways...Edward is sort of out of line. He's "protecting" her, but after all he doesn't own her. She's not his property. He shouldn't be able to tell her when she can go where. He has every right to say, "I would rather you not go" but he's not even giving her that. It's "I don't want you to go so you're not" (Not that Edward would EVER say that because he's too amazing). It just shows you even Magestic-Wonderful-GreekGodlike-Perfect-SuperHott-Edward isn't perfect...

For all of those wondering I'm not a huge Jacob fan...i've always been on Edward's side but there are some things about him that aren't...I don't know how to say this without getting hate comments... He's not...

You know fill in the blank with whatever word/words you find appropriate!

urcoolcarrie

I think that he was trying to protect her. I'm trying to think back to when i was reading this part, and i'm pretty sure i was pretty dang ok with it. i like it when someone is overprotective. it makes it seem like they love that person more. :)

JC

On one hand, Edward is being a little overprotective, but he's only doing it because he couldn't bear it if something was to happen to Bella that he could have prevented.

Also, if you notice, he doesn't let Bella go to LaPush, but then he backs off and gives her a choice of whether or not to leave the window open. He knew it would probably make Bella angry, which would hurt him, but he honestly thinks it's for her own good.

I'm really not sure where I stand on the overprotectiveness thing. On one hand, it's creepy, but I had a slightly overprotective guy friend who was the best friend I ever had, and who would be hard to live without. Besides, the great thing about the book is that all of the characters have their flaws, but we accept them and love them anyways, because we know we have our own flaws, too, and want other people to accept us in spite of them.

Christina

I think maybe it was a little too far, but it was justified. If he can't be around her and Alice can't see her how is he supposed to know she's ok? So I think that was kind of the only option from his perspective.

Laura

Edward may not be human, but he is still a man. Hmm, been doing some reading ahead Kaleb???

courtney

ya know...you are very intuitive, maybe you need to stop guessing about things and read them and find out :p

I think that Edward did go a bit far with the truck thing but Charlie did it to Bella's truck too, but i guess he is the parent. I think Edward is an extemest, as you can tell with New Moon he left and completely removed himself from her life and now he is controlling all aspects of it, but i believe its good intentioned. Ugh I want to tell you more but I guess I'll shut my trap and let you find out for yourself :)

Georgia

As always you have made my entire night :) I love your posts.

If Edward went too far in messing with Bella's truck (yeah... he probably did...) I still got a lot of giggles out of it when he did :)

~Georgia

Stacy

edward just over thinks everything and knows that bella attracts trouble. i think he's right in doing what he can to stop her from going around by herself. sure a part of him doesn't want her around jacob because he's jealous but la push is the one place he can't go and make sure she's safe.

HeyJoyous

Well, since Edward really thinks that Werewolves = Death I don't think he went to far. He's trying to keep her alive. And Alice can't see what will happen to her when she's with them. He doesn't want to go through losing her again even though the first time wasn't real.

Hanalee

Edward was being a BIT of a conrtol freak (understatment). But, it was only becuase he cared for Bella....if you judge him by his motives, than you can't hate him TOO much, but if you take it as he puts her "safety" before her happiness and doesen't really care if it makes her miserable, or that Jacob saved her numerous times when he wasn't there to, Edward seems like a wee bit of a jerk here.

Moar

my ~~blobfish
ty for making me e-famous

Chelsea

This is the thing that a lot of people critcize the Twilight books for. If they get past the first two without getting offended because it's "anti-feminist" (insert my laughter), then they get angry because Edward exhibits the behavior of an abusive boyfriend in Eclipse. But the thing is, nothing that happens in Twilight can be taken out of context. This is immediately following Edward's long and painful separation from Bella, and he came back to Forks to find her in more arguably more danger than she's ever been before (werewolves, vampires, and sex talks, oh my!). Most girls wouldn't tolerate this behavior from their boyfriends, but Edward is trying. He is trying so hard to do what is right for her, and this little incident is just one of his many overreactions. Stephenie talked about this once. At the beginning of New Moon, Edward overreacted by removing himself completely from Bella's life. When that didn't work, he decided to ALWAYS be with her, and that means he has to always know where she is. Obviously, Bella's not going to like that too much, so it seems like Edward has made another mistake. His problem is that it takes him a while to find a happy medium. So no, I don't really have a problem with it. I understand completely what his motivations are.

marcela

ok well.... twilight world with vamps and warewolfs no edward did not go to far
real world only humens yes he did and i would have kicked him and ran b4 he could have said another word he would he to beg on his knees and then mayb i would forgive hime (im no 1s pet no matter how in love)

Loony_Lovegood

This is exactly why i'm team jacob. Edward is wayyyy too overprotective. It bugged me to death that he doesn't let bella visit jake.

Elise

In Edward's mind the wolves are dangerous and unstable. (think about what happend to Emily) He is doing this to:
1. protect Bella
2. and a little beacuse part of him won't let him forget how it felt like to think of her as dead
3. beacuse it hurts to lose her for a little while, especially to Jacob
4. and beacuse he IS jealouse of Jacob
At least that's what I think^^

katie

I think that Edward is definatly too overprotective of Bella sometimes. I mean whatever happened to making sure that Bella is happy? By Edward not letting Bella see Jacob is hurting her. The longer that Bella is away from Jacob the more he is hurting too.

Brittany

Excellent observations once again Kaleb! Pretty sure most of us girls agree with you on this one (from the abundance of comments above mine, lol) especially those of us who are a bit headstrong :) Can't wait to see your take on the trip to Florida!

Elaina

Oh yeah Edward went into "scary lifetime movie boyfriend who ends up beating you" mode

Rhiannon

I absolutely LOVE Edward, but he is very very overprotective. It really bugs me that he does this, and if some guy ever did this to me, he would be dead by now, but with everything that has gone on in the past, I can see that he might just be a little paranoid. I think that him killing bella's truck is annoying, and selfish in a way, but also kinda romantic in a twisted way. He loves her so much :)

Beverly

*wants to say something about Edward, but can't, as it is a spoiler*

Beverly

*holds hands up in self-defense"

I think he is doing the best he can to protect Bella, but it is going too far if he thinks the best way is to keep her from doing what she wants. I, personally, would not be able to STAND Edward if he went to my school. Just the fact that he's usually certain he's right and always walks around with a smirk on his face would be enough to drive me up the wall. Yes, I understand that he is unselfish, handsome, and amazing in general. I just do not enjoy the company of people who overreact.

Fran, you hit it right on the head. *claps*

Brianna

I understand where Edward's coming from, and the more I think about it, the more I think that I would do the same thing. I'm not saying that what he did was "right", but he had some good reasons for doing it. I am a little biased, though:)

sparkles

Taking apart her truck, forbidding her to visit LaPush against her informed wishes with no good explanation other than fear for her safety (explanations that she heard and discounted rationally) is disempowering her. There is a huge power difference between them in terms of physical strength. By discounting her informed choices in favor of his own wishes for her, Edward is treating Bella not as an equal partner in a loving relationship, with the right to make her own decisions, but as he would a child he was responsible for. The fact he has the power to do so, makes it all the more galling that he would abuse this power so against someone he claims to love. It is not right.

Luckily, he sees that later, kind of - though really I wonder if he really understands this or if it is just fear of losing her emotionally that makes him decide to show more respect for her autonomy. Seriously, Edward shows his selfish side through this controlling behavior towards Bella.

Then again, Jacob and Bella both show their selfish sides in this book as well. :) It's a great book for fleshing out the not so nice sides of the characters. Part of the Wurthuring Heights flavor I suppose.

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