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Reading Eclipse: Chapter 14 (Declaration)

December 22nd, 2008 at 12:05 am by Kaleb Nation

The song for this chapter is When We Die by Bowling For Soup [suggested by Rita]

Ahh yes: the chilling coldness of winter has set upon the great city of Dallas once again. It feels so odd: I remember when it was this time last year, and the ground outside was covered in snow, and my joy at actually seeing snow in Texas made all my northernly friends laugh out loud, since they see it every year. Still, I can’t help but feel a bit of Christmas cheer over my tiny apartment, just as I can’t help but feel a tiny bit of guilt for running the heater at the world’s most comfortable temperature 24/7…because in this apartment, we don’t pay electric bills. Muhahaha.

Anyhow, it’s been so vastly long since I’ve read a chapter of Eclipse that I realized a break from all the cheery chilliness would do me much good. Actually, it’s only been a week since the last chapter. But, as all of you know, a week from this book feels almost like a month or two. On to chapter the fourteenth!

Like Bella, I am also wondering if Alice has completely lost her mind. When you are being hunted by a manic vampire who wants to tear you limb from limb and drink your blood, the last things on your mind are plans to thrown a party. Who feels like celebrating at such a time? I would be too distracted boarding up every window, entrance and exit to even taste the Reeses-covered New York Style Cheesecake (an item pivotal to any party, in Forks and otherwise).

I was absolutely, totally offended by Edward’s obvious prejudice against us Texans:

Edward answered in a low voice. “Jasper thinks we could use some help. Tanya’s family isn’t the only choice we have. […] He’s considering talking to Maria…but no one really wants to involve those backwoods, primitive, hicktown southerners.”

I Am Totes Offended

Oh I See


I can’t begin to count the inquiries I’ve gotten by email about my Calculus test last week. If you’ve been following my site for any number of months, you would know my absolute loathing of Calculus, to the extent that it was one of the main reasons I recently transferred to an English degree minoring in Brand Marketing (which requires the minimal minimum of mathematics (say that 5 times fast) ). For all the people who asked, I give the same answer as Bella:

“…I don’t know about the Calculus. It seemed like it was making sense, so that probably means I failed.”

I have gone up against Jacob before, and his constant advances towards Bella despite the fact that she is already in a relationship with Edward. As with last time, I’m having a bit of trouble with him still. I don’t know if it is subconscious leanings towards Edward or if it is just because I know how I would feel if I was Edward and some werewolf was trying to steal my girlfriend. Maybe I am jealous in that way, where I wouldn’t like her always seeing Jacob, knowing exactly what he wants and even worse, being able to read his mind, knowing that he wants to tell her to leave me.

I know that there are thousands of Team Jacob people out there who radically disagree with me on this, but in my honest opinion, Jacob should really have a bit more respect for Bella and Edward’s relationship. It is a very big thing for Edward to let Bella go to Jacob’s house so often. Can’t Jacob accept that and try to stay friends with her?

I say that Edward ‘lets’ Bella go to Jacob’s house, and immediately I step back and try to rephrase my words, since this seems to appear possessive, as if Edward owns Bella and can order her about. When I say that Edward lets Bella see Jacob, I’m trying to say that no guy wants his girlfriend to be going out with other guys, just as girls do not want their boyfriends going out with other girls. Is this possessive? Is it a problem of trust? Or is it something that has to do with respect: Bella should respect Edward enough that she isn’t bouncing between both guys, trying to hold on to them both. How is that right to either of them?

Still, in defense, I understand Jacob’s situation perfectly. Bella is with Jacob’s enemy, someone who Jacob believes can be of great harm to her. Of course, he wants her to leave Edward. If my best friend was dating someone who drank blood and wanted to kill her, I might do the same thing. I can’t blame him for wanting what is best for her. He might be thinking that he is the only one who hasn’t been intoxicated by Edward’s vampire-ness, and is the only person who can see the Cullens for who they are. Maybe he is trying to do whatever he can to get Bella away from them, thinking he is saving her life? Maybe according to Jacob, Edward really is like heroin for Bella — and the longer Bella stays, the worse she will become, until she is one of them.

It’s so confusing, which as I think of it, is the nature of this vampire/werewolf love triangle. Is there really a safe side to be on? Neither Jacob nor Edward are intrinsically bad. Both of them want to keep her safe from the other, going so far as to both be watching her at night at the same time — and Bella is caught in the middle, unsure of which way she should go.

I seem to be caught there as well. Which one is better for her? I’m guessing this is what Team Switzerland was invented for 😀

Question for the comments: Do you think Bella would be safer being watched by Alice or by Jacob? Who do you think could stand better against an attack from a newborn vampire?


– Christmas time is here, and I’m traveling about. I’m unsure as to how posting will be this week, but I’ll be back for sure after the holidays!

– Keep watch on my Youtube and here for an extra-special BlogTV I will be doing with a Special Guest, mayhaps next week Friday-ish 😀

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  1. Emily

    Uh, ALICE. No offense to Jacob, but he’s got to take the split second to phase where as Alice doesn’t have to. Plus she sees the future and knows what her opponent(s’) moves are. Alice would definitely win against a newborn – the werewolves have to team up. Now, I do sort of like Jacob (though I am no doubt team Edward) and I’m not knocking him, I’m just assessing the tactical situation. I have three brothers, so the whole fighting who VS. who thing is actually a strong point for me.

  2. Madawn

    hmm well let’s see, i honestly think that she is safer with one of the cullens watching here although the werewolves are born to know how to kill a vampire, new vampire’s are very strong and could easily hurt the young werewolves…im not sure though i think that either way she is pretty protected!

    We missed u!!!

  3. Jenna

    YAY~!!!IM 3RD PLACE~!!!
    OMG~im reading eclipse 4 the 5th time and im in the same chapter w/ u Kaleb~!!!

  4. jenn

    in response to your question, “i’m betting on alice” :)
    of course, that MIGHT just be my pro-vampire nature speaking, but honestly, for all the reasons emily mentioned, i really do think alice is safer.

  5. Jacque

    I’m going to go with Jenn (and Bella) with this one and say “I’m betting on Alice”. I have no doubt that Bella could be safe with either of them, they both love her enough to defend her in any way they possibly could, but Alice could be much more efficient at it. The biggest problem for me is that I don’t feel like Jacob could be as Bella-conscious while defending her and could end up harming her a lot easier than Alice would (Sam’s love for Emily couldn’t stop him from scarring her for life). Alice is experienced with fighting vampires, her bones don’t break as easily as a werewolve’s can, and she has that incredible foresight thing going on for her.

  6. Steph

    An attack by just one newborn vampire? Well, that’d be a pretty stupid newborn. But if it’s just one, I can’t choose. I mean, I for one wouldn’t want to hang out with Alice (shopping gets pretty boring after the first hour or two), but I’m pretty much completely against Jake. I’d have to say that she’d be equally safe, but I just really don’t like Jake. So… I’d go with Alice.

    Love the picture, by the way. There, there. I’m sure Edward wasn’t referring specifically to you. Just the majority of your friends and relatives. :)

    I cannot wait until you get to the next chapter. Maybe you could do an extra post this week? To make up for skipping the last one? Please? It would make me ever so happy. It can be a Christmas present to all your readers.

    Which reminds me, in case I don’t comment on another post until afterwards…

    Merry Christmas! Hope you have fun… doing whatever it is you do.

  7. Tegan

    Well, I honestly think that Alice would be better. Alice has many advantages; diamond hard skin, super strength, and not to mention her abilities to see the future. Then again, a newborn would have these same advantages, but the strength would amplified. Jacob’s werewolf abilities were designed to kill vampires, but he’s still young. Alice loves Bella and so does Jacob, but I don’t think he’d be exactly careful of Bella. Both Alice and Jacob would have the means of calling for help, but it’s just my opinion that Alice would do a better job. . . =)

  8. Malin

    I think she is safer when vampires are watching her. They have much more knowledge and know better how to react in case of an attack. Even when Jacob is the mortal enemy and has the power to fight against vampires – he hasn’t done it yet (except Laurent). He has no knowledge in terms of really big fight as for example the newborn army.

    Furthermore it always helps when you can predict the future. Nope the vampires are better for Bella – Team Edward all the way 😉

  9. Vanessa

    Alice, most definitely. For both questions that is. Although Alice’s visions have holes, they are still more definite than Jacob’s beastly-ness. Also, Alice would probably be more experienced dealing with newborns seeming as how she is…how many years older than Jacob?

  10. ERIKA

    Jacob beat Laurent with the help of his pack. I’m not sure if he can face a vampire alone. Jacob’s strong but I think Alice can protect Bella more against another vampire.

  11. Drama

    Oh, I so agree with you.

    I believe that Alice would be better to watch her not Jacob, she can see future if he’s not around, so Bella should be safe.

    Jacob seems to be jerk in this book, I’ve read it and all time hoped that he will die, Edward will kill him but no..

    And I think that vampires are better choose to fight with the newborn vampires than werewolves because they have Jasper who know how to deal with them.

    Go team Edward!

  12. Nazneen

    I do understand the situation that Jacob is facing. About how he, too, loves Bella and wants to be with her. We know that Jacob have always made her happy during New Moon. But we can’t use New Moon as a reason to why Bella should choose Jacob. Because before New Moon, there was Twilight. And we all know how much Edward and Bella were in love with each other. So yeah he should take time to realize that his best friend is in love with someone. Things would probably be better they remained as friends 😀

    And uhm, I think Alice Cullen will make a perfect babysitter for Bella. Because for the obvious reasons, she can see the future, and knows how to deal with the newborn vampire. 😀

    We love the Cullens <3!

  13. Talkerwolf

    Alice, as she is a vampire, and can see the future. So she would know when the attack was coming, would know whether she would win or not and so be able to get Bella to a safer place. Where as jacob is a younf Werewolf, therefor similar to a young vampire. Mucho power without muchi skills lol

  14. Jessica L.

    NUH UH! You did NOT just insult JACOB BLACK, haha, lol, jk jk.

    I’m not sure about your question though. I believe that because of Alice’s ability to see the future, she would be able to protect Bella well, plus her friendship adds to that. But because Jacob is literally in love with Bella, I think that this would contribute to protecting her good as well. People tend to look down at Jacob because he’s a wolf, but I think there’s more there than is really shone. Personally, I believe that Jacob and Alice could both easily kill a young vampire because that vampire would have to be plain stupid to attack Bella with either one of them there :)

    TEAM JACOB, I like my men with a pulse, please.

  15. Aria

    I snowed in Plano the other day and Is creamed at the sky ,” WHY CAN’T YOU WAIT A FEW DAYS!?”

    Anywho, definetly Alice. The vampires are just more lethal to me.

    Also, I don’t think Edward in possessive. it’s a man’s job to look after his woman, and a woman’s job to let the man lead. it’s biblical and everything. BTw I loath Feminism with every fiber of my being cause no one really understands what it means…

  16. Alli

    I wouldn’t be scared with Jacob, but I would feel a little safer with Alice just because she has everything the newborn has (except the strength, which she doesn’t really need) and more.

    I stayed Team Edward because I truly believed Edward and Bella were meant to be, but I have had Team Switzerland leanings before and you’re right: this is exactly why.

    Aria, I hate typical feminism too (though if you go to Stephenie’s website and read her definition, it’s much better),and I think to some degree a man should take the responsibility of protecting the girl, but the “woman’s job to let the man lead” thing is just a little too far in the other direction. I have no problem with chivalry and the old-fashioned gentleman, but you shouldn’t keep a woman from what she wants. But I understand your point.

  17. Kaye

    Alice, definitely. She can read the future, and she doesn’t have to phase.
    If I had at least a person LIKE Edward, I would not be pushing it like Bella is but I dunno…

  18. HeyJoyous

    Alice. She’s seen newborn vampires before. She can see the future. She knows the moves they are going to make before they make them. Alice.

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  20. Paige

    ha ha! I’m Texas born and raised, but I moved to Indiana. I’ve been here for about 2 years now. I was so shocked at how much snow we got my first winter here! I hate snow now!
    Personally, I’m Team Edward. I think Jacob is nothing but a big jerk! I think Bella should be watched Alice… as long as Alice doesn’t torture her with the clothes and make-up… too much. I love Alice! She’s so annoying it’s funny! I never really noticed that prejudice comment by Edward. I’m offended now! Jasper is my favorite of the guy vampires. He’s sexy and southern!

  21. edwella cullen

    ALICE ALL THE WAY! i just dont like jacob (defends self from all of the crushing team jacob fans) no offence or anything, but alice has the power to see the future so she can see when a vampire is coming their way. she seems more responsible and i think she knows bella a bit more than jacob

  22. Joyce

    I stopped reading when you said English major. You should go ahead and finish reading the series. Immediately. Then you can go through chapter by chapter. English Major? Ha.

  23. Charlee

    I sympathize with you completely about math! I too, have chosen a major and minors that require minimal math. I only have to take one class. Hehehehe

    I think she’s safer at the vampire’s house. After all since they are vampires, they do know how to take down vampires. lol, how many times can I say ‘vampires’ in this post?

  24. Jenna

    I know EXACTLY what you mean about Texas snow lol! Couple weeks ago, here in Houston we got “snow” (not much AT ALL), but it was so exciting!! Of course, the next day it was 80 degrees out and sunny!

  25. Katie Beth

    Jacob is a jerk. Nuff said.

  26. Miss Tree

    I have to go with Alice. She’s got Jasper to teach her. Jake doesn’t. He does have his pack and if they were around I think the group would handle one newborn. But I’m Team Alice on this one.

    I wish we had snow – it’s just freaking cold here.

  27. Pam

    Well, you know us Washingtonians, we are all elitist northerners who see no point to anything south of LA, except maybe Florida. Okay, maybe not. The South seems a little nicer at the moment since I detest snow with a passion and was happy to go home from college in snow country only to have massive amounts of snow.

    I’m going to argue the point that Edward would prefer Jacob for Bella. I’m not sure where it is, but overall Jacob is a safer alternative for Bella. It’s not a struggle for Jacob to be in control of himself, like it is for Edward and Jacob can take care of Bella the way Bella needs to be taken care of. Do consider that I’m more Team Edward and I’d rather see Bella and Edward, but I still think Jacob is safer.

  28. Bekah

    I have to say alice would be safer, because she would see it cooming. Also alice is amazing! I thought Jacob was just being a big jerk in this whole book. HE isn’t considerate of Bella AT ALL, he pretty much does a bunch of no good tactics to get her to like him (and I know from personal experiance how super annoying and frustrating that is), and he keeps trying to kill edward. GRRRRR Jacob. Of course I can’t hate him as much now that I have finished the series…. :( hating him was so much fun…..

  29. Icy Topaz

    I love Jacob, but Alice is WAY better to watch over Bella, because of her sight. If a newborn vampire was coming to attack Bella, Jacob wouldn’t know until it was already there. Alice, on the other hand, would have known it was coming, and would have proper protection for Bella. That’s an easy question. Besides, Alice loves Bella in a more healthy way. That makes her safer. 😉

  30. Bekah

    PS I can’t wait to see your reaction on the next chapter!

  31. Elle

    So I think I might be the first to say this, but I’m leaning towards Jacob. I know Alice can see the future, and that is a good advantage, but she can still be looking ahead for an attack on Bella without actually being with her. And she could get to wherever Bella is almost instantly then to help. Although, if Bella was with Jacob, she wouldn’t actually be able to see. So that’s something else to consider.

    The most astounding (or one of the most) things is the strength the newborn vampires have. Hands down, they are stronger than any other (except maybe Emmett), and I just don’t think Alice could handle that on her own.

    Jacob’s strong, he’s made to kill vampires. It’s in every cell of his body to kill them. In addition to his hatred for the species, if one was actually Bella, the girl he LOVES, then he definitely wouldn’t let anything happen to her.

    Personally, I’m Team Jacob, for several different reasons. But just because I like him better doesn’t mean that I’m expecting Bella to choose him. I’m not delusional, I know Edward is the right choice for Bella, but just because I accept that doesn’t mean I have to like it. Superficially, Jacob’s funny and Edward is just a little too serious for me. But aside from that, it’s how they interact that really gets me. With Edward, Bella is always so worried about something else – like they’re always waiting for the other show to drop. And while I understand that love is a delicate thing and you can’t treat it roughly, I think you should be comfortable in that relationship. Jacob and Bella definitely have that. Bella can be herself around him, never worrying about what’s to come. She can just be and she’s happy then. A lot can be said about the guy who manages to mend a girl’s broken heart.

    Now, as far as Bella hanging out with Jacob and Edward “letting” her. I think there’s fault all around. Yes, Jacob needs to respect Bella’s wishes, but feelings aside he really is just worried for her well-being. It’s not so much that he’s trying to convince her to be with him instead of Edward, he just wants her away from Edward. And Bella doesn’t realize what going to Jacob does to Edward and she should be more conscious of that effect. But Edward hurt her so badly when he left and Jacob was the one who was there for her. Edward shouldn’t expect her to give that up. Bella needs a life outside of Edward because in the event he leaves her again, she needs something to get her through. And Edward doesn’t see how much he hurt Bella and part of that, I think, comes from how he can’t read her mind. His words who so obviously a lie when he told her he didn’t love her, but he doesn’t understand how she couldn’t see that. He expects her to accept that for the lie it was and move on, but she can’t do that. Because she still sees their relationship as how hugely imbalanced. And who can blame her? Isn’t that what’s suppose to be? You’re never suppose to measure up to the one you love, they should make you want to be a better person.

    The Edward/Jacob rivalry also comes from the fact that Edward essentially stole Jacob’s life from him. If it weren’t for the vampires, the werewolves wouldn’t exist. Jacob doesn’t think it’s fair for Edward to take that and Bella from him.

    And for as much as Bella says she’s ready to turn, to spend eternity with Edward, she ISN’T ready to give up her human life. But she can’t grasp that it isn’t the same – which is what Edward has been trying to tell her for so long. It’s exactly the point Jacob has been trying to make, saying that as soon as she turns, he’s done. He can’t be around her anymore. I think Edward and Jacob both agree, and I as well, that Bella isn’t taking this decision as seriously as she should.

    It’s not suppose to be easy. Stephenie purposely wrote the book without a bad guy (at least in this triangle). Because often times in life, it isn’t as easy as right or wrong, good or bad. Shades of gray color everything and it really all depends, person to person, situation to situation, day to day, what that answer will be.

  32. ~Tina

    Well, first of all, she should stay with Alice, only because Jacob can’t see the future, but alice can’t see her if she’s with Jacob. She’s safer with Alice, but knowing Bella, she’s going to choose what’s safe for her. (which is always the most dangerous/lethal). And secondly, neither of them would be better because neither of them havve alot of experience. The only one who would be the BEST in the attack is Jasper. But I’m extreamly biased, so… 😀

  33. April

    Gotta say, I have a serious bias for the vamps, so better to have Alice babysit. Who wants your girl with some stinky, smelly dog, especially one that is six times the size of a regular one?

  34. Morgan

    Thank goodness i thought you were never going to post again. But duh Alice is better she can see the future and see when someone is coming, also shes super strong. Vampires stand a better chance against new borns, because vampires aren’t as brakable as werewovles and can get more invovled in the fight.

  35. JessieLynn

    Welcome to Team Switzerland aka the Dark Side, Kaleb! We have cookies! But seriously, it was this book that me sure of my stance. I mean, I knew that Edward and Bella were going to end up together, heck they have been a couple since FOREVER, but I didn’t see a problem if she did end up with Jacob. They both are amazing guys for her and she would be lucky to be with either.

    I agree on the Calculus thing, I am in Precalc right now and all I can think about is how long until class gets out. The rest of the time I am horribly lost. I love English, but I have a feeling Psychology is where I’m destined to end up. Gotta love getting told by God, “Oh, yeah, you think you are going to be an English teacher, well you’re not, so get over it.” lol.

    Merry Christmas Kaleb!

  36. Elise

    Alice. She can see them coming AND knows what to expect. Jake hasn’t fought one yet.

  37. faby

    alice, maybe cuuz even with all the holes on her visions she might predict the attack of the newborns,cuz Jacob only has on his side his big muscles

  38. Loony_Lovegood

    I think Jacob, but apparently, that’s just me… Maybe it’s just that Jacob loves her, and would do anything to protect her… but Alice is a good choice too, because she can see the future. oh gosh, nevermind. i’m team switzerland for EVERYTHING.

  39. Kendall

    Kaleb, I understand your excitement over an inch of snow. I live in the valley and we never really get anything. Last Christmas it snowed and it didn’t even stick, yet everyone thought it was amazing. This year however, it’s been snowing constantly and we have about a foot :). No one can go anywhere though, because we have like one snowplow for the whole town.

    I can’t say “minimal minimum of mathematics” even once…

    okay, to the point. Alice would be best I think, because she’s not mortal and all that. But if Jake had a couple buddies he could take them down easily… so I don’t really know :)

  40. Melissa(melissaturkey)

    Alice definately. Its the future thing. its an advantage that no werewolf has and well very handy in a fight. that being said, I think jake would stand his own very well against a newborn, you’re not there yet but someone much younger than jake takes down a newborn almost single handedly and I have no doubt jake could too and probably did no problem (we just didnt see it, haha but youre not there yet) so either of them could, but who would be better between the two? Alice, its just the future thing :)

    also yeah the triangle is confusing. I was always team switzerland not because I wanted to take the cowards way out but because I knew she would end up with Edward and I wanted her to. but I love jake too and sympathize with him immensely and had it not been for bella not being able to live without edward i would say jake would be the healthier choice. but I too would probably pick edward and let my friendship with jake fade out. but bella knows that jake is important to keep around and his existance affects her deeply, she just doesnt know why yet. so she has that against her but yeah I think Im done now :) melissaturkey

  41. Snow Wight

    I, like so many others in previous comments, am going to have to go with Alice. However, I have another reason to add that I didn’t see yet. (If someone already mentioned this, I’m sorry–I skimmed a lot). If a newborn (or more) were to try to attack Bella on Alice’s watch, Alice would be ready to fight back…which would put her, no matter how insignificant the amount, in danger. If that happened, you can bet Jasper would be right there with her, and since he’s the newborn expert, I think Bella would be pretty safe.

    By the way, Kaleb, that was super awesome that you recognized me on your show the other day. I’m glad you had fun getting to talk! I did too; it’s great hearing from another writer. Most of the time, when I talk about writing, people just look at me with expressions akin to these– 😛 O.O :(–and back away slowly. lol

  42. Shannon

    Alice, for one, she may appear small but she could kick the vampires ass and two, Because of Alice being a vampire she would know the best way to fight a new born. (Had to change the last one there, nearly gave something away ;o)

    If Jacob was watching Bella..he’d probably pure push his luck. Urgh, I hate Jacob Black.

  43. xxtwerdxx

    okay screw team edward and team jacob, i’m team threesome =]

    and i think Bella is safe with either alice or jacob. they both can protect her. well, now that i think of it, alice probably is safer, and while i am not team jacob, i feel awful for him in the third book. =[ and second when she leaves him.

  44. Zella

    Alice is a compact can of…
    well, Alice.

    I pity the fool who tries to cross that super-pixie. Said fool doesn’t have a chance against her.

  45. Katie

    Well Jacob would win the fight because Alice certinly isnt the strongest vampire and newborns have crazy ammounts of strength.

    But Alice can avoid the fight all together but seeing it and getting bella the heck out of there.

    Hope that answers the question ahah

  46. Katie

    Oh and as for the other question. She would be safer with Jacob watching only beaceus Jacob would howl and call the rest of his pack and the howl would also tip off the cullens and so she gets the best of both worlds there. Where as if only alice were watching she would only get the vampires.

  47. becky sue

    Alice is much more responsible than Jacob– by far. Plus I think that she would be more fun to hang out with.

    We have plenty of snow every year here in Iowa. In fact, we just had a huge ice storm thingy and everything was coated in an inch of ice. It sucked. But we got out of school for break earlier. YOur reaction in the video is halarious!! I’m surprised you didn’t just end up jumping into a pile of it, but I guess you didn’t have enough to do that really.

    Ahahahahha, the comment number 44 calls her a “super-pixie”. That is PERFECT!!

    Oh, and wish me luck. Next semester I’m taking Calculus. HELP ME!!

    Merry Christmas

  48. Juni

    I’m so glad you posted again, hisgoldeneyes, stephenie’s site, and your site is all I mainly go to daily.

    Um, for your question I think since Alice knows the future and has super speed, and strength that she would better take care of Bella. Jacob, on the other hand is made for killing vampires and heals easily. Then again, Alice’s vision has holes and Jacob is just a young werewolf.

  49. Juni

    Oops, I didn’t finish my comment. overall I think Alice would be better.

  50. Natalie

    Of course Alice is better! She would kick the newborn’s butt!! She has had much more experience fighting vamps than Jacob could ever hope for! And she can see the future, she can’t be touched but Jacob is vulnerable and breakable (if only, sigh). I love Jasper! He would be my favorite if there were no Edward! Kaleb, your question will be answered in the book in a few chapters…He He!
    This book is so frustrating! Bella makes stupid choices gallore!! She tries to keep both Edward and Jacob and it can’t work! Jacob is a huge jerk, Bella can’t talk to him without fighting! Why would you want a friend/ boyfriend like that!? There’s no peace! If he loves her so much then why can’t he let her be happy with her soul mate, Edward, huh? That is what Edward would do! He would let her have Jacob if that was what she wanted! He is perfect!
    Jacob IS worried for Bella’s safety but that is an insignificant part of it! He does whatever it takes to satisfy himself! Edward would not! Bella is first to him, but Jacob puts Jacob first! If Edward was my boyfriend I would not even remember the werewolf’s name, what is it again? Oh, Jacob! I don’t hate him anymore after I finished the fourth but when I read Eclipse the hatred for him glows healthy and strong!
    Oh, Jacob Black, I want to La Push you off a cliff!! Let Bella have Jacob, I’ll take Edward from her!
    Kaleb, the Team Switzerland status should fade away by the end of the next chapter! Read it soon!!

  51. erin

    JACOB!!because if she was with alice, she would just try to get away, and could end up by herself with NO ONE to protect her. with Jacob, she would already be happy, and wouldn’t be trying to go anywhere. so it would be safer for her with jaocb. and jacob and alice would both probably win against a newborn. TEAM JACOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  52. Becky

    one newborn alone would have to be REALLY stupid attack either Jake or Alice, but anyway, I’d say Alice. But only because she thinks things through and would know it was coming. Jake doesn’t really think, he just acts. Which is probably a bad thing to do when dealing with a newborn. But Jake would be much warmer to be with if it was cold :)
    But still, totally Alice. Her fighting skill would be awesome to watch in action! And she’s more experienced with vamp fighting.

  53. Carrie

    I think Bella is safer w/ Alice. No vampire would be stupid enough to try to get to her at the Cullens’. They’d never get anywhere near Bella…I totally agree w/ everything you said about the Edward/Bella/Jacob triangle. While I understand Jacob’s side of things, I’ve always felt that his behavior in “Eclipse” was very disrespectful. He needed to trust Bella’s judgment. Obviously, if the Cullens wanted to hurt her they would have done so long ago. Most guys (even with 100 years of maturity) would not be able to handle Bella’s friendship w/ Jacob, especially if they knew for a fact that he was trying to steal Bella away. However, Edward lets her make her own choices and doesn’t interfere w/ her friendship. If he can get over his rivalry w/ the wolves, Jacob should be able to get over his rivalry w/ the vamps. I guess he is just too jealous.

  54. tina

    Ok – firstly – my butterfinger cheesecake would absolutely be better than your Reeses (sorry, it’s true) and even during moments of duress, you would taste it!!! ha ha

    Alice is the better protector. Not that Jacob couldn’t protect Bella, but he is too emotionally involved to be clear about the boundaries of their friendship. Alice loves Bella in a healthy friendship way. She would never let anything happen to Bella if she could see it coming (which is part of the reason for keeping her away from the werewolves earlier in this book – she can’t see). She would see a newborn attack coming, and would do anything (involve anyone) necessary to keep Bella safe.

    Gotta read chapter 15…..you’ve just gotta read it!!!

  55. Cara

    I feel your pain with the snow… except that you don’t feel the pain, as you did have snow. Haha. Anyways, I live in Simi Valley (it’s a small city near Los Angeles) and I don’t know the last time it’s snowed. I have never even seen snow. So sad.
    Hahaha, I found it funny how you have taken such offense to Edward’s dislike for Texas.
    Also, Bella isn’t unsure of which way to go- she just thinks she can pull off being with both of them. But if she had to choose, she already knows who she would be with.
    Regarding the question, I think they would both be equally well equipped to stop a vampire attack. Then again, I would prefer Alice, just because I hate Jacob in all the books except Breaking Dawn :)

  56. Hope

    I’m from texas as well so I understand the whole snow thing. This was the first time I had ever seen snow so all my yankee friends laughed at me so much.

  57. AussieT

    Can’t sympathise with the snow – sorry. We’re expecting a balmy 26oC on Xmas Day here. Shorts, T-shirts and outside BBQs – love Aussie Xmas’s!

    As with most, I would have to go with Alice because of her skills and vampire experience. But I think Jacob could do the job – just not as efficiently.

    Have a great Xmas everyone!

  58. CJ

    I think Alice because… Say Jake gets knocked into a tree and the newborn gets to her. Jake jumps in and bites the vampire and rams Bella with his side. Now Alice would see that the newborn was going to hit her in the tree and would move out of the way. Bada Bing Bada Boom. No more new born.

  59. CJ

    By the way, MERRY CHRISTMAS, FELIZ NAVIDAD, all that jazz.

  60. kate

    Alice, definitely.

    Very insightful post, Kaleb.

  61. Sierra

    Like so many of the others said- I’m betting on Alice. Shes a vampire, she’ll see any threats coming, and shes had her family to teach her all she needs to know about fighting.

  62. Dezi

    My best friend and I debate about this every time the saga comes up, and we have agreed to disagree. I am absolutely team Jacob, sure Edward is romantic and all that jazz, but Jacob is warm and soft and Edward is well…not. Of course Edward should “let” Bella go to Jacob’s house. Although Edward left her for like half the second book for some psychotic reason Bella is still madly in love with the guy. As for Jacob, Bella considered him her best friend, emphasis on friend, no matter how hard Jacob tries to change that. Clearly Bella made her choice, and she isn’t’ just gonna up and leave Edward (like she should) because of her best friends feelings. I mean hello, we’ve already seen she can handle herself. As for who she would be safer with, I say give her to Rose, I mean seriously girls isn’t that what you really want anyway…Bella out of the way?

  63. julia

    She can see the future, and is a very skilled fighter.
    werewolves often need more than one wolf to finish a vampire, so obviously Alice.

    And Alice is just so much cooler than jacob. Obviously.

  64. Joy

    *ducks in cover beforehand*
    I guess certain events in Breaking Dawn kind of explain why.
    I love Alice, just not as a babysitter =P I like being told the blunt truth, and let’s face it, the Cullens do tend to try and keep things from Bella ;]

  65. Heather

    Yay for switching to an English major! Math idiots unite! Although you can’t be a math idiot if you even made it through a semester of calculus, whereas I wouldn’t have made it through an entire class period.

    I would call you Team Switzerland with a leaning towards Edward. Your points on Jacob are spot on. He should have a little more respect for Bella’s relationship with Edward and that’s what made me loathe Jacob. Is he really that much better for Bella if he keeps forcing himself on her when she doesn’t want that? So many of my friends are Team Jacob and it’s literally impossible to have a serious discussion with them, cause all they can say is, “Jacob is awwwwwweeeeesooommmmee and Edward is crazy and abusive!” And they can’t back anything up. But the same goes for radical Team Edward people lol.

    As for your question, I believe Alice would be better suited for protecting Bella and fighting against vampires. With Jacob, there is always that chance Bella will piss him off greatly and he will loose control and hurt her, plus Jacob doesn’t understand the way newborns attack as fully as Alice does. Alice is extremely good at controlling her thirst around Bella, and usually when she is protecting Bella, she has a house full of fellow vampires to help out. Now if the question was between Jasper and Jacob, I think Jacob would be better only slightly, because although Jasper has the extreme best fighting experience, he can’t control his thirst.

  66. Stephaine

    First off The Snow I HATE IT! I have lived in Utah all my life and winters start in Late November early December and last until Febuary or March, somtimes April. So that means 5 months or snow! UGG!!
    But to anwswer the questiong both Alice! Because Jacob has killed one vampire but that was with his pack not alone and Alice would be more likely to be able to handel it! And she has her hard skin and visons, to help her. So in my opnion Alice is the clear choice!

  67. Amaranthine

    Yay for us English Majors, Kaleb! I’m glad you finally made the change. :) I think you also need to see another thing from Edward’s point of view–as a fairly new werewolf, Jacob doesn’t really have the best control. If he were to get angry, he could hurt Bella like Sam hurt Emily. Or a lot worse. So it does make sense that Edward doesn’t completelt trust Jacob with Bella’s safety.
    And to answer the question…Alice, without a doubt.

  68. Cam

    If the basis of your question is to determine which one could handle a newborn vampire fight better – you’ll get the answer in just a few more chapters….

  69. Megan

    Alice!!!!!! Haha, she is my favorite character of all time, so I have to say her :) Jk, jk. I honestly think that, because she can see the future! I mean she is really safe with Jacob, but Alice has more advantages. So…yups :)

  70. Angela


  71. Megan

    Oh, and for the other question…no. I’m a paranoid person. I’d make Edward or Alice stay with me at all times, never letting go of them…except for the bathroom. Haha :) I’d drag them with me everywhere! Haha I worry too much. I’d probably like assign all of the Cullens one of my family members to watch over. Haha :)

  72. Allison

    Alice,She loves Bella just as much as Jacob does.Aswell she has a gift to see the future.If any harm is coming Alice is most likely to see it and Im all pro-vampires and feel safer with the the Cullens.There also is a risk with Jacob he loses control,Get’s pissed of easily,Isnt as smart as Alice.I think Alice is also a better fighter,gaurd,smarter,quick thinker and she has Baby-sat Bella before… :)

  73. Sarah

    Alice because she sees the future and all that jazz (pun intnded if that is a pun at all……you know what i mean)

  74. cammie rose

    well…im torn. alice would be very good because she can see the future, but she’d get distracted if there was blood.
    i WAS team edward for years, but then after i read breaking dawn, i switched. Jake rox. but in eclipse, he… is annoying.
    oooh, i just thought opf the best song for jacob in new moon/eclipse!!!! endlessly, by Muse.
    so back to the question: probably alice… though only by a bit.

  75. Ruby (GottaLoveAlice)

    ALICE- deffinitly…

    She could see what the vamp’s next move would be —
    Not saying that Jacob wouldn’t stand the fight, cause he would, but he might also get hurt…

  76. Ina

    I think Alice would definetly be the better choice for Bella’s protection, ’cause she already sees what the enemy’s going to do, so she can vring Bella out of danger, before it happens. That’s just a really great advantage. Jake may be strong, but he doesn’t have visions (…I guess xD )

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  79. A person

    I think that Alice is better for Bella to stay with, but that may have to do with the fact that I hate Jacob. Alice has been around a helluva lot longer than Jacob and has more training than he ever will. Plus, Alice is a helluva lot cooler than Jacob will ever even try to be.

  80. kristen

    Alice!! Jacob can’t really do it by himself as we find out latter on! (oops spoiler) I think it is funny about all the Team Jacob and Team Edward stuff still. There really isn’t teams anymore. Jacob didn’t become REALLY awesome IMO until Breaking Dawn! I didn’t like him in the 3rd book. He was way to pushy for me! I really started to hate him. He was a very diff. Jacob than in New Moon. I really liked him in New Moon and in Breaking Dawn.

  81. Tricia

    Is this possessive? Is it a problem of trust? Or is it something that has to do with respect: Bella should respect Edward enough that she isn’t bouncing between both guys, trying to hold on to them both. How is that right to either of them? – That’s exactly how I felt during Eclipse.

    Alice, for all the reasons mentiond above.

    Merry Christmas to all!

  82. Feven

    Although I love Jake dearly, I’m going to give this one to Alice. That whole fortune telling power pretty much gives her the overwhelming advantage. I know that her visions are subjective and therefore can possibly manipulated, but at least she’ll be at Bella’s side in an instant.

  83. Feven

    OH! and Calc also ruins my life.

    oh how I despise integrals..

  84. Maxxie

    I’m going with Alice, because she can see the future.

  85. Samantha

    Woo, TEAM SWITZ!

    “I’m betting on Alice.” She knows how to handle her own kind, whereas Jacob can be a loose cannon. Plus, Alice has her whole future thing going on. Sure, visions can change. But honestly, when a crazy newborn vamp has one objective (Bella), the future won’t change too much. Their thirst wouldn’t allow the change in thought.

  86. Albert

    I think the Cullens are way better than the werewolfs. Jacob can really get on your nerves sometimes. He just needs to let Bella go, because he knows she loves Edward and just trying to break them apart is really pathetic. In my opinion Jacob is really immature and childish, so there’s no reason for Bella to be with him.

  87. Autumn

    Alice, totally. She (along with Jasper, who I have noticed rarely leaves her side) are way more experienced. I agree that Edward’s prejudice is false. Jasper is the best fighter of all the Cullens, and he is from Houston!

  88. Lauren

    Alice! Jacob hasn’t faced this type of newborn vampire before!

    +By the way, if Alice is there, so is Jasper, and boy oh boy, do I love me some Jasper. (:

  89. Ari

    haha you and calculus is like me and chem- i loath it.

    Anyway, Alice is a way better choice. Jacob is reckless and Childish and Bella would really be babysitting him, though he can look out for himself, he always makes careless desicions. Sure, shed have more fun, but Alice gives you freedom to a degree, saftey, and you can go drive around in a porsche and shop! Only Bella doesnt like to shop. I’d pick Alice any day.

  90. Hannah

    Most of the annoying Edward fangirls are saying Alice just because its wired into their little harddrives to think Jacob is bad.
    I think Alice and Jacob are equal when it comes to protecting.

    But honestly?
    Who cares about Bella?
    I think Alice and Jacob should let Bella have what she deserves and let her get attacked and the two of them could go see a movie together, taking a break from the “must protect pathetic, manipulative human” game.


  91. Zoe

    I definitely believe that Alice would take better care of Bella. Don’t get me wrong, I love Jacob and all (no, I really, REALLY love Jacob even though he’s a complete asshole in this book) but he still is human. ALice can protect herself with her vision, while Jacob’s an idiot and won’t take any attack seriously. ALice is obviously the better option.

  92. Sarah W.

    Woohoo Team Switz! This is what we’re here for! :)

  93. Sarah W.

    I kind of agree with you, Hannah.

  94. Kathryn K.

    I believe it would be safer for Bella to be watched by Alice then Jacob, for multiple reasons. One, Jake takes only a second to overreact and phase, potentially harming Bella in the process, while you’d never have to worry about that with Alice. Two, I’m sure Edward would have a major problem with Bella being asleep and unconsicious next to a young, volatile werewolf who happens to be desperately in love with her. I could definitely see Jacob’s jaw ending up broken after that night. And thirdly, Jacob is not the most graceful person-he could potentially wake Charlie up, something you would never have to worry about with a vampire, Alice in particular. My final reasoning is that Jake would never be able to take on anewborn vampire on his own-he’d be torn to shreds! Alice would be able to hold her own, as well as very possibly being able to win. So, overall, as you can see, it would be much safer to have Alice watch Bella then Jacob. …The picture of Jake as a werewolf in Bella’s room is a funny thought. xD

  95. Megan

    Not being biased or anything (Although I am Team Edward/Vamps) but Alice is much safer. She can see her apponents moves and she won’t have to phase and she will be ready to fight before hand. Also because Alice is with bella half the time anyways- I doubt anyone would be okay with Jacob hanging around all the time.

  96. Kate

    I would have to say Alice because of her advantages as other have said seeing the future, she’s strong, and she’s better controlled.

    But besides all that I wish you a merry Christmas Kaleb and may all your wishes come true!

  97. Morty

    Yeah Hannah, who cares eh? LOL.

  98. Jasperequest

    I think when it comes down to it, Alice would be safer for Bella. However, it isnt because the has her “vision.” Obviously it isnt doing a whole lot of good at the moment ANYWAY… but other than that, she is more experienced, more battle-savvy, faster, stronger, (sadly) tougher, and probably a tad smarter.

    Jacob has his instincts, and with those teeth, he would be able to do some damage, but Alice would be able to multitask.

    Jacob is very straightforward in his style, (plus the disadvantage of being less agile backwards, vampire vs. werewolf) so he wouldnt be able to destroy the newborn AND protect Bella as effectively.

    altogether, Alice.

    But i think a better question is who would protect Bella better, a pack of Werewolves, or a family of Vampires?

    What do you all think?

    MERRY CHRISTMAS!! or whatever you celebrate lol, i dont care=)

    PS: Team Edward, not because i have anything against Jacob, but because in the situation that Bella is living in now, Edward IS he soulmate. Regardless of whether Jacob was meant to be or not. (And ironically, Edwards presence is the only thing that has really changed this lol )

  99. Katherine Cullen

    Sorry, but I gotta say Alice, when Jacob “protects” her, he gets mad, so when the newborn vampires came to Bella (with Jacob in front of her/beside/somewhere close), Jacob would inevitably get mad, and if Bella didn’t get out of the way fast enough, she’d be hurt, just like with Emily, and Alice could see the impending attack, hide Bella, and face whatever was coming alone to ensure Bella’s complete safety

  100. Maddy

    Definitely Alice— Jacob would probably be too distracted trying to convince Bella to ditch the vampires 😛

    I understand that Jacob wants to save Bella’s life.. but later on in BD you see that no.. he has motives… if he were somehow in Edward’s position… would he be able to let Bella go ? NO. that answer is too obvious.

  101. Emily

    Alice. She has been a vampire longer than Jacob has been a werewolf which means she is probably better prepared to take care of a new born. An example would be in Twilight with James. Also because of Jacob’s love for Bella he would spend too much time trying to protect Bella instead of fighting the new born. Look at what happened to Emily when she got too close to Sam. If Jacob got mad while watching Bella he might turn and there would be no one there to protect her, or calm him down.

    P.S. This might be bias because I hate Jacob.

  102. Amber

    I love Jacob dearly, but if it was to fight a newborn vampire, I’d have to say Alice. She’s been around longer, and she moves faster than him, and she knows how to fight them beter than Jacob. *sigh* Or it could just be that I’d be more worried for Jacob’s safety…
    Gahhh get the Bella out of me, STAT!

  103. priyanka

    i am totally team switzerland, too. i mean, i like both edward and jacob and i know what they both feel about bella and it’s hard to decide who is better since they are both so wonderful. but that’s not for us to decide, it is for bella to decide. some oneto protect bella from a newborn vampire, hmmm. i have to say alice, cuz she is older and knows more in combat against vampires and jacob could easily get hurt since he doesnt have that much experience…

  104. Anonymous

    Well, honestly, I prefer Jacob. But for Bella’s situation I think she’s better off with the vampires. Sometimes Jacob let’s his emotions run away with him and the Cullen’s have proven that, although they do care for her, they can keep a (relatively) level head in a fight.

    And as Emily (First Post) said, Alice has extra abilites: she can see what’s coming, so that puts her ahead of the game. Whereas Jacob does need to phase without hurting Bella, that actually puts him a bit behind. And with crazy vamps you really don’t have much time to spare.

    But really, why not both. I say suck it up Jacob and Alice; hold your breath and just keep me from being torn limb from limb… please.

  105. Rach

    I completely agree…up to the team switzerland part :)

    But still, what I believe is that Jacob, so blinded by the vampire/werewolf-mortal-enemies prejudice, doesn’t actually love Bella. He doesn’t know what love is, nor has he seen an actual relationship apart from imprints and a relationship that got torn apart to pieces (Sam-Leah). He doesn’t even have a parental relationship to learn from, because his mother has been dead(?) for who knows how long. He’s, you have to admit, a small town BOY (despite the adult physique) who hasn’t been exposed to the real world yet.

    I do believe, though, that he does care for Bella alot, and to an extent, I understand his desire to take Bella out of a relationship that he doesn’t like at all, but, like I said, to an extent. As you will see later, he goes way too far (and I’m not talking about the next chapter).

    I also agree that Jacob should respect Bella/Edward’s relationship, and the concessions that Edward made so that Bella can keep her werewolves friends. I, like you, am not trying to imply a possessive nature, but no guy likes it when his girlfriend, who supposedly would do anything for him, wants to spend time with his mortal enemy instead of him.

    I also think that Bella needs to put her foot down. As I said above, she should realize that what she’s doing is hurting Edward. She needs to at least reassure Edward that she’s not leaving him. It’s just the courteous thing to do if you’re pledging eternal love, but then go prancing off to another guy to hang out.

    Moving on to a lighter topic. Alice…will be Alice. Tis her nature, that’s all. Also I believe that she wants to keep things as normal as possible, for Bella, because Edward’s not the only person that tends to overreact. And if Bella’s distressed, it means Edward’s distressed, and she’s just trying to play her role by keeping it as light as possible for Bella, who’s still human, and thus couldn’t and shouldn’t handle the supernatural problems.


  106. Rochelle

    I think Alice would insure that Bella wouldn’t get accidentally injured seeing as she doesn’t have to phase.

  107. E

    Hannah, Sarah W., and Morty-

    Interesting perspective… but I’m honestly curious… assuming you are Twilight fans, what DO you care about, then?

  108. Rachel

    Alice. No doubt about it.
    But moving on to the bigger questions…

    Lol boy Kaleb, you’re really walking a fine line here.

    I’m glad as a guy you can relate to Edwards position b/c honestly I think a lot of girls miss it. The real problem isn’t that Edward is too possessive it’s that he hates himself too much. Edward can’t put his foot down about Jacob because he already thinks he’s so unworthy of Bella. I’ve said it before but Edward is the one most trapped in the relationship. Bella can fall in love with someone else and Jacob can stop loving Bella but Edward can’t. Edward has the least amount of leverage of the three. and what little he does have he barely uses because he’s such a gentleman.

    Jacob’s motives aren’t entirely selfish and evil, he really is worried about bella, but it’s because he lets himself be blinded by his own personal feelings and prejudices. He refuses to see good in Edward. Edward is dangerous and hates himself for it. Jacob is dangerous and brushes it off. Edward moves past his natural prejudices. Jacob clings to his. probably one reason he is blinded is b/c it gives him an excuse to chase Bella.

  109. TwiFreak

    100% Alice.Jake doesn’t have much experience fighting vampires, while Alice (who is one, already giving her a major advantage) has a husband who’s a PRO at killing vamps.I’m sure she’s picked up some technique and skill from him.Alice is also so small and graceful, while Jacob isn’t graceful in the least compared to a vampire. Yes, he might have some strength on his side, but that won’t do much good if he’s dead because the enemy vamp outmanuevered and outgraced him. If Jake is alone he won’t be much of a match for the other vampire, no offense. And another thing, Alice is just SMARTER. And female, so she won’t get all weird with the pride thing and refuse to call for help if she really needs it, though I guess the other wolves might come no matter what Jake says if he’s being killed…I would hope at least…

  110. Megan

    I’m betting on Alice :]

  111. Megan

    Oh also, there are the annoying Edward fangirls and then there are people like me who are TEAM SWITZERLAND and don’t even really care about anyone in the book excpet Alice. That is why I picked Alice, not because I’m an annoying Edward fangirl because they drive me INSANE!

  112. mk

    alice would be better against a newborn because she is more practiced in the delicate ‘art’ of fighting vampires :)
    i think you should stay team switzerland, if you pick sides someones going to get madd 😛

  113. Carissa

    I am a fan of Jacob, but I do think that she should be with Edward.

    However, in response to your statement about him constantly trying to come onto Bella even thought she s in a relationship with Edward, you need to try and understand where Jacob’s coming from too. lol. Imagine your best chick friend. Now imagine her going out with the person in school that you hate the most. Now make him a blood sucking vampire. lol. I agree that perhaps his efforts are misguided, but I don’t think he s overreacting or whatever.

  114. Shannah

    Yay! Finally someone looks at this through Jacob’s perspective. I think you are starting to see the light. Lol.

  115. @Carissa

    Actually, Jacob is.. overreacting.

  116. Devilish Southern Belle

    Hello! Semi-newish to the Twilight Series (I’ve finished them all, but didn’t start reading till mid-November. A *very* late bloomer in the Twi-world, I’m sure), and new to your site.

    In answer to the question you posed: Alice FTW! She can see the future, after all.

  117. Heather

    Well I love Jacob but I think Alice is better guarded against newborn vamps but beleive me, after you read the 3rd book you will like Jacob better and after the last book you’ll understand fully his role :)

  118. Helen

    Alice – as well as the whole future thing, shes also got Jasper, who is like a PRO on newborns.
    Also, I can’t help disliking Jacob… for pretty much all the reasons Kaleb said. Also again, this is my first time on this website, so I don’t know if this has been discussed someplace else, but what does everyone think of Renesmee?

  119. Alix

    Alice, though you are right on ‘has she lost her mind’ thing. And i dont know if that backwoods thing was a joke, but i checked and it didnt say that at all.

  120. E

    Helen –

    The Twilight Lexicon has great forums to discuss everything Renesmee… http://www.twilightlexiconblog.com

  121. Sophia

    Alice! Obviously Jacob is too busy fuming over the relationship between Bella and Edward that he wouldn’t be much help at all. And even if he set that aside, he is so overly mesmerized by his affection for Bella that he is not able to pay attention to the things around him.

  122. devz30

    Alice. Everybody said all the reasons, I don’t think there’s any reason for me to.

    Sophia (#51) I so agree with you. Alice has an advantage over Jacob.

  123. devz30

    oh, by the way, chapter 15 is probably my fav. chapter in the book.

  124. Haley

    Soooo, I’ve successfully read almost all of you logs for this book. I sort of stumbled upon this website in mindless google-ing. Anywho…

    Your comments are very entertaining, something oddly random about them, throwing in bits of humor along with a serious evaluation of each chapter oddly holds my minuscule attention span. I look forward to more.

    I’m not sure if you’re still taking suggestions for songs for Eclipse, or if this one is on the agenda. But if you are: ONLY ONE IN COLOR by TRAPT, fits Bella and Edward’s relationship perfectly.

    Once you get further into the book, the song will appeal to you most certainly in an uncanny way. Every time I hear it, I think of this couple. A bit obsessive compulsive, I know, but keep it in mind.

    My comment is turning into a rant, and I’m sure that I can ascertain that you probably won’t read this. “lol.” I’ll leave it here. Hurry with your next commentary, I look forward to reading it. =]

  125. Jaclyn.

    Well, Bella’d be safe with both of them, but, I’d prefer Alice. She can see the future, she is IMMORTAL, she’s faster and probably stronger than Jake, and SHE IS TOTALLY WAY MORE FUN! Totally Alice.
    And, to answer that other question, VAMPIRES. They have the same weaknesses, yes, but the Cullens have a better sense of what would be coming. And again, I will use this very nice word – IMMORTAL. Well, to an extent, I guess. But truly, if the wolves and the Cullens got together, that’d be some scary stuff.
    HAHAHA – lovin’ the texan hicks. *SMILE*
    And I know it can be hard to pick a side when you see their point of view on the subject. But, Edward’s better looking, smarter, perfect (no, I do not care if someone gets jealous or is a little over protective and has the tendency to go to extremes.), and he can provide, and he’s a vampire, and he smells nice, and he sparkles, and… Okay, I need to shut up, or we’ll be here all day. So, yeah, that’s kinda what decided it for me. Edward is officially the better guy in my opinion.
    I mean, I love Jake, but Edward’s better. :)
    I hope I don’t have Team Jacob yelling at me.
    HAHAHAHAHA! I feel so bad for you. Calc has to suck. I’m scared for when it comes.

  126. Lori.

    Alice obviously. My reason has been said by other people already :] And Alice again with the newborn. Jacob’s really human in my book. Hembleeds and gets hurt, unlike a vampire.

  127. Kayla

    I would say Alice.
    Everyone has already stated the reasons, so yeah…nothing left to say. =D

  128. Hannah Leigh

    First, I would like to thank you for taking a step back and taking back what you said about Edward “letting” Bella see Jacob. My feminist behavior has been acting up lately and it really upset me to see it like he had control over her like he is the superior. but I definitely see where you are coming from the way you explained it. =]

    And my answer is Alice. I had to think about this one though because clearly they both are her best friends. They both want to protect her. But alice is faster and a lot less clumsy in her fighting state. She also has the advantage of ummm thumbs. =]. She is kinda fierce and she scares me, even despite her little tiny self. Jacob just reminds me of a cuddly puppy dog. he doesn’t seem too fierce. And he seems a bit more cocky. He could get into trouble in a fight. And he doesn’t really know the newborns the way the Cullens do. Since they have lived with them. Like how Alice has to keep Jasper in check a bit still. Yea so ALICE for sure!

  129. becky

    alice. she can see it all coming as long as the wolves don’t get involved

  130. Emmy

    I think Alice would be safer for Bella because she could see everything (or almost everything) that’s going on in the future. And I think Jacob would stand better against a newborn vampire because he’s bigger and has a lot of similarities to the vampires, like speed. but Alice is not to be underestimated.

  131. Kaylina

    Happy belated new year!

    come one Kaleb! it’s been literally F O R E V E R since your last post!

    oh and for the A tou you Q probably Jake since he was made to kill vamps anyways.

  132. Tianna

    Hope you had some good holidays!!

    Well, I can honestly say I don’t know. I guess it depends on who is ATTACKING, rather than who is WATCHING her.

    Say, if Sam wanted to forcefully kidnap Bella to keep her from going and turning into vampire, than Alice wouldn’t see that. She wouldn’t see anything at all. But maybe that could mean something like she knows his plans or she could figure Bella was hanging out with Jacob on a sunny day.

    But if it’s vampires that want to attack, than maybe Jacob, because Alice wouldn’t do so well (I think) if she was being bombarded with multiple enemies.

    But newborns, you say. I would guess Jacob because he loves her, really, so he would lay down his life. Alice would do the same thing, though, but she has a lot of people counting on her and the pressure may get to her. And who’s to say Jasper would let her fight or say she got a vision in the middle of it?

    Two words: not good. Either way could be good and bad, actually.

    Thus, you see the dilemna. 😛
    (I’m not sure if I spelled that right…)

    That’s kind of why I agree with Emmy two posts above me.

    Oh, and -insert evil laughter here- about the electric bill. XD

    And I can see where you are caught between the ‘I dont want my girlfriend hanging out with some other guy that we both know has feelings for her’ and the ‘She is mine’ thing. Is it possessive? Or isnt it?

    I probably would have done the same thing as Edward if I were him.

    Truthfully, I agree with you and Bella on Calculus (or just math, in general): if it starts making sense, you’re failing… horribly. I know from experience. I could do well on the major tests (about avereage scores for me), but on the little tests, I’m utterly lost and can’t figure it out at all… until it starts making sense.

    Then I KNOW I failed. 50% or below by my standards.

    You know what? I had deja vu when I was typing this. Thats just creepy… XD

  133. Megan

    fyi: ‘I’m guessing this is what Team Switzerland was invented for” Switzerland was the one place in and around europe that was neither for the allies or the axis of evil during wwII. just saying.
    Jacob. He is built specifically to fight the vampires. When you say that edward lets her go see jacob, i believe what you mean is that edward doesnt make a big deal out of it, or get openly jealous and start a fight. Bella should have more respect for her relationship with edward and try to ease up with the whole seeing jacob all the time thing, but we all know how things end up in the end, right? 😉

  134. Albiku

    You got Jacob’s true feelings really well. Stephenie has explained again and again that Jacob doesn’t put himself in the middle of the relationship between Edward and Bella just because he wants Bella. He thinks he’s saving her. He thinks Edward will harm her. He’s not fighting for her love. He’s fighting for her life. And if he gets her to love him in the process… well, then that’s even better. But yeah, he really thinks he’s doing the best for her, and he doesn’t understand why she loves Edward, a bloodsucker, his mortal enemy.

    Stephenie has in her official site a Jacob’s POV of Twilight and New Moon (I think it’s in the Extras of New Moon). A lot of Jacob’s feelings are explained there. You can read it if you have time one of these days. It would help you understand the character even better.

    Jacob is my favourite character, but I’m pro-Edward/Bella. I’ve always thought Jacob deserved better than a girl who can’t love him whole heartedly. I can’t wait until you read Breaking Down. I really can’t wait.


  135. ashley

    ALICE ALICE ALICE ALICE a millliiionn times but jacob could defend better between a newborn probably but still he’ll get all lovey-dovey with her ughh

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  137. Kristen

    Alice for both. Alice wants to protect Bella, and I think Jake should have just backed off. Bella’s life is complicated enough without a teenage werewolf declaring his love for her constantly. And, with Alice’s added ability a newborn would be no match for her. Jake has brute strength, but Alice “sees” what moves the newborn will make and can protect Bella acoordingly.

  138. Sarah E

    No doubt Bella would be safer with Alice. Jacob is kind of new at what he does and he still has a hard time controlling himself. Alice on the other hand has been a vampire for quite some time now and she knows how to handle herself in a more mature way. Alice can see what her opponents are going to do next and I think that the cullens are more than capable of taking down a newborn … but the werewolfs would probably either end up dying or getting hurt in the process. But I still think Bella is in good hands either way…I just would rather her be under the suppervision of Alice or any of the cullens for that matter. Go Team Edward♥

  139. Kaleb A Nation is my buddy

    i personally think jacob should leave them alone
    a blind man could see the bond beetween them and to try to rip that apart just so HE could have happiness is disgusting
    he should let bella and edward be.

  140. malin

    HELLO! Do anyone think 'bout the small detail that Edward left Bella all alone? Jacob pretty much saved her life. That doesn't really give Edward a good reason to forbid her NOT to see Jacob just 'cause he (Edward) is back, right? Really, Edward needs to take the consequences of leaving = Jacob. I'm Team Switzerland, thought 😉

  141. ummhedaya

    I think that Edward mostly wants for Bella to just be happy… even if that were without him and to his own unhappiness… however, Jacob just wants for her to be happy with him(Jacob)… Jacob doesn't seem to remember that Bella wasn't really able to live without Edward… although Jake wasn't exactly privy to Bella's inner thoughts like we were :)

  142. ummhedaya

    I think that Edward mostly wants for Bella to just be happy… even if that were without him and to his own unhappiness… however, Jacob just wants for her to be happy with him(Jacob)… Jacob doesn't seem to remember that Bella wasn't really able to live without Edward… although Jake wasn't exactly privy to Bella's inner thoughts like we were :)

  143. Laura

    Alice, totally. I mean she could forsee the newborn coming and tear him apart for some bonefire thing

  144. Maandacs

    This Chapter made me a bit ” not happy” with Bella. I guess because while she thinks she is matured enough for her age, she is still a seventeen year old girl. There is a reason why that age is still considered as a child , they can not vote or even buy and consume alcohol. She clearly doesnt see how her actions is so unfair with Edward. That is why she felt so bad for leading Jacob on that long and not made the situation so clear up from the very start. She should have shown a bit of importance to Edward when Jacob is concern.

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