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Reading Eclipse: Chapter 14 (Declaration)

December 22nd, 2008 at 12:05 am by Kaleb Nation

The song for this chapter is When We Die by Bowling For Soup [suggested by Rita]

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Ahh yes: the chilling coldness of winter has set upon the great city of Dallas once again. It feels so odd: I remember when it was this time last year, and the ground outside was covered in snow, and my joy at actually seeing snow in Texas made all my northernly friends laugh out loud, since they see it every year. Still, I can’t help but feel a bit of Christmas cheer over my tiny apartment, just as I can’t help but feel a tiny bit of guilt for running the heater at the world’s most comfortable temperature 24/7…because in this apartment, we don’t pay electric bills. Muhahaha.

Anyhow, it’s been so vastly long since I’ve read a chapter of Eclipse that I realized a break from all the cheery chilliness would do me much good. Actually, it’s only been a week since the last chapter. But, as all of you know, a week from this book feels almost like a month or two. On to chapter the fourteenth!

Like Bella, I am also wondering if Alice has completely lost her mind. When you are being hunted by a manic vampire who wants to tear you limb from limb and drink your blood, the last things on your mind are plans to thrown a party. Who feels like celebrating at such a time? I would be too distracted boarding up every window, entrance and exit to even taste the Reeses-covered New York Style Cheesecake (an item pivotal to any party, in Forks and otherwise).

I was absolutely, totally offended by Edward’s obvious prejudice against us Texans:

Edward answered in a low voice. “Jasper thinks we could use some help. Tanya’s family isn’t the only choice we have. [...] He’s considering talking to Maria…but no one really wants to involve those backwoods, primitive, hicktown southerners.”

I Am Totes Offended

Oh I See

Sheesh.

I can’t begin to count the inquiries I’ve gotten by email about my Calculus test last week. If you’ve been following my site for any number of months, you would know my absolute loathing of Calculus, to the extent that it was one of the main reasons I recently transferred to an English degree minoring in Brand Marketing (which requires the minimal minimum of mathematics (say that 5 times fast) ). For all the people who asked, I give the same answer as Bella:

“…I don’t know about the Calculus. It seemed like it was making sense, so that probably means I failed.”

I have gone up against Jacob before, and his constant advances towards Bella despite the fact that she is already in a relationship with Edward. As with last time, I’m having a bit of trouble with him still. I don’t know if it is subconscious leanings towards Edward or if it is just because I know how I would feel if I was Edward and some werewolf was trying to steal my girlfriend. Maybe I am jealous in that way, where I wouldn’t like her always seeing Jacob, knowing exactly what he wants and even worse, being able to read his mind, knowing that he wants to tell her to leave me.

I know that there are thousands of Team Jacob people out there who radically disagree with me on this, but in my honest opinion, Jacob should really have a bit more respect for Bella and Edward’s relationship. It is a very big thing for Edward to let Bella go to Jacob’s house so often. Can’t Jacob accept that and try to stay friends with her?

I say that Edward ‘lets’ Bella go to Jacob’s house, and immediately I step back and try to rephrase my words, since this seems to appear possessive, as if Edward owns Bella and can order her about. When I say that Edward lets Bella see Jacob, I’m trying to say that no guy wants his girlfriend to be going out with other guys, just as girls do not want their boyfriends going out with other girls. Is this possessive? Is it a problem of trust? Or is it something that has to do with respect: Bella should respect Edward enough that she isn’t bouncing between both guys, trying to hold on to them both. How is that right to either of them?

Still, in defense, I understand Jacob’s situation perfectly. Bella is with Jacob’s enemy, someone who Jacob believes can be of great harm to her. Of course, he wants her to leave Edward. If my best friend was dating someone who drank blood and wanted to kill her, I might do the same thing. I can’t blame him for wanting what is best for her. He might be thinking that he is the only one who hasn’t been intoxicated by Edward’s vampire-ness, and is the only person who can see the Cullens for who they are. Maybe he is trying to do whatever he can to get Bella away from them, thinking he is saving her life? Maybe according to Jacob, Edward really is like heroin for Bella — and the longer Bella stays, the worse she will become, until she is one of them.

It’s so confusing, which as I think of it, is the nature of this vampire/werewolf love triangle. Is there really a safe side to be on? Neither Jacob nor Edward are intrinsically bad. Both of them want to keep her safe from the other, going so far as to both be watching her at night at the same time — and Bella is caught in the middle, unsure of which way she should go.

I seem to be caught there as well. Which one is better for her? I’m guessing this is what Team Switzerland was invented for :D

Question for the comments: Do you think Bella would be safer being watched by Alice or by Jacob? Who do you think could stand better against an attack from a newborn vampire?

——NOTES——

- Christmas time is here, and I’m traveling about. I’m unsure as to how posting will be this week, but I’ll be back for sure after the holidays!

- Keep watch on my Youtube and here for an extra-special BlogTV I will be doing with a Special Guest, mayhaps next week Friday-ish :D

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  • Maandacs
    This Chapter made me a bit " not happy" with Bella. I guess because while she thinks she is matured enough for her age, she is still a seventeen year old girl. There is a reason why that age is still considered as a child , they can not vote or even buy and consume alcohol. She clearly doesnt see how her actions is so unfair with Edward. That is why she felt so bad for leading Jacob on that long and not made the situation so clear up from the very start. She should have shown a bit of importance to Edward when Jacob is concern.
  • Laura
    Alice, totally. I mean she could forsee the newborn coming and tear him apart for some bonefire thing
  • ummhedaya
    I think that Edward mostly wants for Bella to just be happy... even if that were without him and to his own unhappiness... however, Jacob just wants for her to be happy with him(Jacob)... Jacob doesn't seem to remember that Bella wasn't really able to live without Edward... although Jake wasn't exactly privy to Bella's inner thoughts like we were :)
  • malin
    HELLO! Do anyone think 'bout the small detail that Edward left Bella all alone? Jacob pretty much saved her life. That doesn't really give Edward a good reason to forbid her NOT to see Jacob just 'cause he (Edward) is back, right? Really, Edward needs to take the consequences of leaving = Jacob. I'm Team Switzerland, thought ;)
  • Kaleb A Nation is my buddy
    i personally think jacob should leave them alone
    a blind man could see the bond beetween them and to try to rip that apart just so HE could have happiness is disgusting
    he should let bella and edward be.
    cheesehead.
  • No doubt Bella would be safer with Alice. Jacob is kind of new at what he does and he still has a hard time controlling himself. Alice on the other hand has been a vampire for quite some time now and she knows how to handle herself in a more mature way. Alice can see what her opponents are going to do next and I think that the cullens are more than capable of taking down a newborn ... but the werewolfs would probably either end up dying or getting hurt in the process. But I still think Bella is in good hands either way...I just would rather her be under the suppervision of Alice or any of the cullens for that matter. Go Team Edward♥
  • Kristen
    Alice for both. Alice wants to protect Bella, and I think Jake should have just backed off. Bella's life is complicated enough without a teenage werewolf declaring his love for her constantly. And, with Alice's added ability a newborn would be no match for her. Jake has brute strength, but Alice "sees" what moves the newborn will make and can protect Bella acoordingly.
  • ashley
    ALICE ALICE ALICE ALICE a millliiionn times but jacob could defend better between a newborn probably but still he'll get all lovey-dovey with her ughh
  • You got Jacob's true feelings really well. Stephenie has explained again and again that Jacob doesn't put himself in the middle of the relationship between Edward and Bella just because he wants Bella. He thinks he's saving her. He thinks Edward will harm her. He's not fighting for her love. He's fighting for her life. And if he gets her to love him in the process... well, then that's even better. But yeah, he really thinks he's doing the best for her, and he doesn't understand why she loves Edward, a bloodsucker, his mortal enemy.

    Stephenie has in her official site a Jacob's POV of Twilight and New Moon (I think it's in the Extras of New Moon). A lot of Jacob's feelings are explained there. You can read it if you have time one of these days. It would help you understand the character even better.

    Jacob is my favourite character, but I'm pro-Edward/Bella. I've always thought Jacob deserved better than a girl who can't love him whole heartedly. I can't wait until you read Breaking Down. I really can't wait.

    :)
  • Megan
    fyi: 'I’m guessing this is what Team Switzerland was invented for" Switzerland was the one place in and around europe that was neither for the allies or the axis of evil during wwII. just saying.
    Jacob. He is built specifically to fight the vampires. When you say that edward lets her go see jacob, i believe what you mean is that edward doesnt make a big deal out of it, or get openly jealous and start a fight. Bella should have more respect for her relationship with edward and try to ease up with the whole seeing jacob all the time thing, but we all know how things end up in the end, right? ;)
  • Hope you had some good holidays!!

    Well, I can honestly say I don't know. I guess it depends on who is ATTACKING, rather than who is WATCHING her.

    Say, if Sam wanted to forcefully kidnap Bella to keep her from going and turning into vampire, than Alice wouldn't see that. She wouldn't see anything at all. But maybe that could mean something like she knows his plans or she could figure Bella was hanging out with Jacob on a sunny day.

    But if it's vampires that want to attack, than maybe Jacob, because Alice wouldn't do so well (I think) if she was being bombarded with multiple enemies.

    But newborns, you say. I would guess Jacob because he loves her, really, so he would lay down his life. Alice would do the same thing, though, but she has a lot of people counting on her and the pressure may get to her. And who's to say Jasper would let her fight or say she got a vision in the middle of it?

    Two words: not good. Either way could be good and bad, actually.

    Thus, you see the dilemna. :P
    (I'm not sure if I spelled that right...)

    That's kind of why I agree with Emmy two posts above me.

    Oh, and -insert evil laughter here- about the electric bill. XD

    And I can see where you are caught between the 'I dont want my girlfriend hanging out with some other guy that we both know has feelings for her' and the 'She is mine' thing. Is it possessive? Or isnt it?

    I probably would have done the same thing as Edward if I were him.

    Truthfully, I agree with you and Bella on Calculus (or just math, in general): if it starts making sense, you're failing... horribly. I know from experience. I could do well on the major tests (about avereage scores for me), but on the little tests, I'm utterly lost and can't figure it out at all... until it starts making sense.

    Then I KNOW I failed. 50% or below by my standards.

    You know what? I had deja vu when I was typing this. Thats just creepy... XD
  • Kaylina
    Happy belated new year!

    come one Kaleb! it's been literally F O R E V E R since your last post!

    oh and for the A tou you Q probably Jake since he was made to kill vamps anyways.
  • Emmy
    I think Alice would be safer for Bella because she could see everything (or almost everything) that's going on in the future. And I think Jacob would stand better against a newborn vampire because he's bigger and has a lot of similarities to the vampires, like speed. but Alice is not to be underestimated.
  • becky
    alice. she can see it all coming as long as the wolves don't get involved
  • Hannah Leigh
    First, I would like to thank you for taking a step back and taking back what you said about Edward "letting" Bella see Jacob. My feminist behavior has been acting up lately and it really upset me to see it like he had control over her like he is the superior. but I definitely see where you are coming from the way you explained it. =]

    And my answer is Alice. I had to think about this one though because clearly they both are her best friends. They both want to protect her. But alice is faster and a lot less clumsy in her fighting state. She also has the advantage of ummm thumbs. =]. She is kinda fierce and she scares me, even despite her little tiny self. Jacob just reminds me of a cuddly puppy dog. he doesn't seem too fierce. And he seems a bit more cocky. He could get into trouble in a fight. And he doesn't really know the newborns the way the Cullens do. Since they have lived with them. Like how Alice has to keep Jasper in check a bit still. Yea so ALICE for sure!
  • Kayla
    I would say Alice.
    Everyone has already stated the reasons, so yeah...nothing left to say. =D
  • Lori.
    Alice obviously. My reason has been said by other people already :] And Alice again with the newborn. Jacob's really human in my book. Hembleeds and gets hurt, unlike a vampire.
  • Jaclyn.
    Well, Bella'd be safe with both of them, but, I'd prefer Alice. She can see the future, she is IMMORTAL, she's faster and probably stronger than Jake, and SHE IS TOTALLY WAY MORE FUN! Totally Alice.
    And, to answer that other question, VAMPIRES. They have the same weaknesses, yes, but the Cullens have a better sense of what would be coming. And again, I will use this very nice word - IMMORTAL. Well, to an extent, I guess. But truly, if the wolves and the Cullens got together, that'd be some scary stuff.
    LOL.
    HAHAHA - lovin' the texan hicks. *SMILE*
    And I know it can be hard to pick a side when you see their point of view on the subject. But, Edward's better looking, smarter, perfect (no, I do not care if someone gets jealous or is a little over protective and has the tendency to go to extremes.), and he can provide, and he's a vampire, and he smells nice, and he sparkles, and... Okay, I need to shut up, or we'll be here all day. So, yeah, that's kinda what decided it for me. Edward is officially the better guy in my opinion.
    I mean, I love Jake, but Edward's better. :)
    I hope I don't have Team Jacob yelling at me.
    HAHAHAHAHA! I feel so bad for you. Calc has to suck. I'm scared for when it comes.
    ilu!
  • Haley
    Soooo, I've successfully read almost all of you logs for this book. I sort of stumbled upon this website in mindless google-ing. Anywho...

    Your comments are very entertaining, something oddly random about them, throwing in bits of humor along with a serious evaluation of each chapter oddly holds my minuscule attention span. I look forward to more.

    I'm not sure if you're still taking suggestions for songs for Eclipse, or if this one is on the agenda. But if you are: ONLY ONE IN COLOR by TRAPT, fits Bella and Edward's relationship perfectly.

    Once you get further into the book, the song will appeal to you most certainly in an uncanny way. Every time I hear it, I think of this couple. A bit obsessive compulsive, I know, but keep it in mind.

    My comment is turning into a rant, and I'm sure that I can ascertain that you probably won't read this. "lol." I'll leave it here. Hurry with your next commentary, I look forward to reading it. =]
  • devz30
    oh, by the way, chapter 15 is probably my fav. chapter in the book.
    =)
  • devz30
    Alice. Everybody said all the reasons, I don't think there's any reason for me to.

    Sophia (#51) I so agree with you. Alice has an advantage over Jacob.
  • Alice! Obviously Jacob is too busy fuming over the relationship between Bella and Edward that he wouldn't be much help at all. And even if he set that aside, he is so overly mesmerized by his affection for Bella that he is not able to pay attention to the things around him.
  • E
    Helen -

    The Twilight Lexicon has great forums to discuss everything Renesmee... www.twilightlexiconblog.com
  • Alix
    Alice, though you are right on 'has she lost her mind' thing. And i dont know if that backwoods thing was a joke, but i checked and it didnt say that at all.
  • Helen
    Alice - as well as the whole future thing, shes also got Jasper, who is like a PRO on newborns.
    Also, I can't help disliking Jacob... for pretty much all the reasons Kaleb said. Also again, this is my first time on this website, so I don't know if this has been discussed someplace else, but what does everyone think of Renesmee?
  • Heather
    Well I love Jacob but I think Alice is better guarded against newborn vamps but beleive me, after you read the 3rd book you will like Jacob better and after the last book you'll understand fully his role :)
  • Hello! Semi-newish to the Twilight Series (I've finished them all, but didn't start reading till mid-November. A *very* late bloomer in the Twi-world, I'm sure), and new to your site.

    In answer to the question you posed: Alice FTW! She can see the future, after all.
  • @Carissa
    Actually, Jacob is.. overreacting.
  • Shannah
    Yay! Finally someone looks at this through Jacob's perspective. I think you are starting to see the light. Lol.
  • Carissa
    I am a fan of Jacob, but I do think that she should be with Edward.

    However, in response to your statement about him constantly trying to come onto Bella even thought she s in a relationship with Edward, you need to try and understand where Jacob's coming from too. lol. Imagine your best chick friend. Now imagine her going out with the person in school that you hate the most. Now make him a blood sucking vampire. lol. I agree that perhaps his efforts are misguided, but I don't think he s overreacting or whatever.
  • mk
    alice would be better against a newborn because she is more practiced in the delicate 'art' of fighting vampires :)
    i think you should stay team switzerland, if you pick sides someones going to get madd :P
  • Megan
    Oh also, there are the annoying Edward fangirls and then there are people like me who are TEAM SWITZERLAND and don't even really care about anyone in the book excpet Alice. That is why I picked Alice, not because I'm an annoying Edward fangirl because they drive me INSANE!
  • Megan
    I'm betting on Alice :]
  • TwiFreak
    100% Alice.Jake doesn't have much experience fighting vampires, while Alice (who is one, already giving her a major advantage) has a husband who's a PRO at killing vamps.I'm sure she's picked up some technique and skill from him.Alice is also so small and graceful, while Jacob isn't graceful in the least compared to a vampire. Yes, he might have some strength on his side, but that won't do much good if he's dead because the enemy vamp outmanuevered and outgraced him. If Jake is alone he won't be much of a match for the other vampire, no offense. And another thing, Alice is just SMARTER. And female, so she won't get all weird with the pride thing and refuse to call for help if she really needs it, though I guess the other wolves might come no matter what Jake says if he's being killed...I would hope at least...
  • Rachel
    Alice. No doubt about it.
    But moving on to the bigger questions...

    Lol boy Kaleb, you're really walking a fine line here.

    I'm glad as a guy you can relate to Edwards position b/c honestly I think a lot of girls miss it. The real problem isn't that Edward is too possessive it's that he hates himself too much. Edward can't put his foot down about Jacob because he already thinks he's so unworthy of Bella. I've said it before but Edward is the one most trapped in the relationship. Bella can fall in love with someone else and Jacob can stop loving Bella but Edward can't. Edward has the least amount of leverage of the three. and what little he does have he barely uses because he's such a gentleman.

    Jacob's motives aren't entirely selfish and evil, he really is worried about bella, but it's because he lets himself be blinded by his own personal feelings and prejudices. He refuses to see good in Edward. Edward is dangerous and hates himself for it. Jacob is dangerous and brushes it off. Edward moves past his natural prejudices. Jacob clings to his. probably one reason he is blinded is b/c it gives him an excuse to chase Bella.
  • E
    Hannah, Sarah W., and Morty-

    Interesting perspective... but I'm honestly curious... assuming you are Twilight fans, what DO you care about, then?
  • Rochelle
    I think Alice would insure that Bella wouldn't get accidentally injured seeing as she doesn't have to phase.
  • Rach
    I completely agree...up to the team switzerland part :)

    But still, what I believe is that Jacob, so blinded by the vampire/werewolf-mortal-enemies prejudice, doesn't actually love Bella. He doesn't know what love is, nor has he seen an actual relationship apart from imprints and a relationship that got torn apart to pieces (Sam-Leah). He doesn't even have a parental relationship to learn from, because his mother has been dead(?) for who knows how long. He's, you have to admit, a small town BOY (despite the adult physique) who hasn't been exposed to the real world yet.

    I do believe, though, that he does care for Bella alot, and to an extent, I understand his desire to take Bella out of a relationship that he doesn't like at all, but, like I said, to an extent. As you will see later, he goes way too far (and I'm not talking about the next chapter).

    I also agree that Jacob should respect Bella/Edward's relationship, and the concessions that Edward made so that Bella can keep her werewolves friends. I, like you, am not trying to imply a possessive nature, but no guy likes it when his girlfriend, who supposedly would do anything for him, wants to spend time with his mortal enemy instead of him.

    I also think that Bella needs to put her foot down. As I said above, she should realize that what she's doing is hurting Edward. She needs to at least reassure Edward that she's not leaving him. It's just the courteous thing to do if you're pledging eternal love, but then go prancing off to another guy to hang out.

    Moving on to a lighter topic. Alice...will be Alice. Tis her nature, that's all. Also I believe that she wants to keep things as normal as possible, for Bella, because Edward's not the only person that tends to overreact. And if Bella's distressed, it means Edward's distressed, and she's just trying to play her role by keeping it as light as possible for Bella, who's still human, and thus couldn't and shouldn't handle the supernatural problems.

    Anyway, HAPPY HOLIDAYS!
  • Anonymous
    Well, honestly, I prefer Jacob. But for Bella's situation I think she's better off with the vampires. Sometimes Jacob let's his emotions run away with him and the Cullen's have proven that, although they do care for her, they can keep a (relatively) level head in a fight.

    And as Emily (First Post) said, Alice has extra abilites: she can see what's coming, so that puts her ahead of the game. Whereas Jacob does need to phase without hurting Bella, that actually puts him a bit behind. And with crazy vamps you really don't have much time to spare.

    But really, why not both. I say suck it up Jacob and Alice; hold your breath and just keep me from being torn limb from limb... please.
  • priyanka
    i am totally team switzerland, too. i mean, i like both edward and jacob and i know what they both feel about bella and it's hard to decide who is better since they are both so wonderful. but that's not for us to decide, it is for bella to decide. some oneto protect bella from a newborn vampire, hmmm. i have to say alice, cuz she is older and knows more in combat against vampires and jacob could easily get hurt since he doesnt have that much experience...
  • Amber
    I love Jacob dearly, but if it was to fight a newborn vampire, I'd have to say Alice. She's been around longer, and she moves faster than him, and she knows how to fight them beter than Jacob. *sigh* Or it could just be that I'd be more worried for Jacob's safety...
    Gahhh get the Bella out of me, STAT!
    :O
  • Emily
    Alice. She has been a vampire longer than Jacob has been a werewolf which means she is probably better prepared to take care of a new born. An example would be in Twilight with James. Also because of Jacob's love for Bella he would spend too much time trying to protect Bella instead of fighting the new born. Look at what happened to Emily when she got too close to Sam. If Jacob got mad while watching Bella he might turn and there would be no one there to protect her, or calm him down.

    P.S. This might be bias because I hate Jacob.
  • Maddy
    Definitely Alice--- Jacob would probably be too distracted trying to convince Bella to ditch the vampires :P

    I understand that Jacob wants to save Bella's life.. but later on in BD you see that no.. he has motives... if he were somehow in Edward's position... would he be able to let Bella go ? NO. that answer is too obvious.
  • Katherine Cullen
    Sorry, but I gotta say Alice, when Jacob "protects" her, he gets mad, so when the newborn vampires came to Bella (with Jacob in front of her/beside/somewhere close), Jacob would inevitably get mad, and if Bella didn't get out of the way fast enough, she'd be hurt, just like with Emily, and Alice could see the impending attack, hide Bella, and face whatever was coming alone to ensure Bella's complete safety
  • Jasperequest
    I think when it comes down to it, Alice would be safer for Bella. However, it isnt because the has her "vision." Obviously it isnt doing a whole lot of good at the moment ANYWAY... but other than that, she is more experienced, more battle-savvy, faster, stronger, (sadly) tougher, and probably a tad smarter.

    Jacob has his instincts, and with those teeth, he would be able to do some damage, but Alice would be able to multitask.

    Jacob is very straightforward in his style, (plus the disadvantage of being less agile backwards, vampire vs. werewolf) so he wouldnt be able to destroy the newborn AND protect Bella as effectively.

    altogether, Alice.

    But i think a better question is who would protect Bella better, a pack of Werewolves, or a family of Vampires?

    What do you all think?

    MERRY CHRISTMAS!! or whatever you celebrate lol, i dont care=)

    PS: Team Edward, not because i have anything against Jacob, but because in the situation that Bella is living in now, Edward IS he soulmate. Regardless of whether Jacob was meant to be or not. (And ironically, Edwards presence is the only thing that has really changed this lol )
  • Morty
    Yeah Hannah, who cares eh? LOL.
  • Kate
    I would have to say Alice because of her advantages as other have said seeing the future, she's strong, and she's better controlled.

    But besides all that I wish you a merry Christmas Kaleb and may all your wishes come true!
  • Megan
    Not being biased or anything (Although I am Team Edward/Vamps) but Alice is much safer. She can see her apponents moves and she won't have to phase and she will be ready to fight before hand. Also because Alice is with bella half the time anyways- I doubt anyone would be okay with Jacob hanging around all the time.
  • Kathryn K.
    I believe it would be safer for Bella to be watched by Alice then Jacob, for multiple reasons. One, Jake takes only a second to overreact and phase, potentially harming Bella in the process, while you'd never have to worry about that with Alice. Two, I'm sure Edward would have a major problem with Bella being asleep and unconsicious next to a young, volatile werewolf who happens to be desperately in love with her. I could definitely see Jacob's jaw ending up broken after that night. And thirdly, Jacob is not the most graceful person-he could potentially wake Charlie up, something you would never have to worry about with a vampire, Alice in particular. My final reasoning is that Jake would never be able to take on anewborn vampire on his own-he'd be torn to shreds! Alice would be able to hold her own, as well as very possibly being able to win. So, overall, as you can see, it would be much safer to have Alice watch Bella then Jacob. ...The picture of Jake as a werewolf in Bella's room is a funny thought. xD
  • Sarah W.
    I kind of agree with you, Hannah.
  • Sarah W.
    Woohoo Team Switz! This is what we're here for! :)
  • Zoe
    I definitely believe that Alice would take better care of Bella. Don't get me wrong, I love Jacob and all (no, I really, REALLY love Jacob even though he's a complete asshole in this book) but he still is human. ALice can protect herself with her vision, while Jacob's an idiot and won't take any attack seriously. ALice is obviously the better option.
  • Hannah
    Most of the annoying Edward fangirls are saying Alice just because its wired into their little harddrives to think Jacob is bad.
    I think Alice and Jacob are equal when it comes to protecting.

    But honestly?
    Who cares about Bella?
    I think Alice and Jacob should let Bella have what she deserves and let her get attacked and the two of them could go see a movie together, taking a break from the "must protect pathetic, manipulative human" game.

    =]
  • Ari
    haha you and calculus is like me and chem- i loath it.

    Anyway, Alice is a way better choice. Jacob is reckless and Childish and Bella would really be babysitting him, though he can look out for himself, he always makes careless desicions. Sure, shed have more fun, but Alice gives you freedom to a degree, saftey, and you can go drive around in a porsche and shop! Only Bella doesnt like to shop. I'd pick Alice any day.
  • Alice! Jacob hasn't faced this type of newborn vampire before!

    +By the way, if Alice is there, so is Jasper, and boy oh boy, do I love me some Jasper. (:
  • Autumn
    Alice, totally. She (along with Jasper, who I have noticed rarely leaves her side) are way more experienced. I agree that Edward's prejudice is false. Jasper is the best fighter of all the Cullens, and he is from Houston!
  • Albert
    I think the Cullens are way better than the werewolfs. Jacob can really get on your nerves sometimes. He just needs to let Bella go, because he knows she loves Edward and just trying to break them apart is really pathetic. In my opinion Jacob is really immature and childish, so there's no reason for Bella to be with him.
  • Samantha
    Woo, TEAM SWITZ!

    "I'm betting on Alice." She knows how to handle her own kind, whereas Jacob can be a loose cannon. Plus, Alice has her whole future thing going on. Sure, visions can change. But honestly, when a crazy newborn vamp has one objective (Bella), the future won't change too much. Their thirst wouldn't allow the change in thought.
  • Maxxie
    I'm going with Alice, because she can see the future.
  • Feven
    OH! and Calc also ruins my life.

    oh how I despise integrals..
  • Feven
    Although I love Jake dearly, I'm going to give this one to Alice. That whole fortune telling power pretty much gives her the overwhelming advantage. I know that her visions are subjective and therefore can possibly manipulated, but at least she'll be at Bella's side in an instant.
  • Tricia
    Is this possessive? Is it a problem of trust? Or is it something that has to do with respect: Bella should respect Edward enough that she isn’t bouncing between both guys, trying to hold on to them both. How is that right to either of them? - That's exactly how I felt during Eclipse.

    Alice, for all the reasons mentiond above.

    Merry Christmas to all!
  • kristen
    Alice!! Jacob can't really do it by himself as we find out latter on! (oops spoiler) I think it is funny about all the Team Jacob and Team Edward stuff still. There really isn't teams anymore. Jacob didn't become REALLY awesome IMO until Breaking Dawn! I didn't like him in the 3rd book. He was way to pushy for me! I really started to hate him. He was a very diff. Jacob than in New Moon. I really liked him in New Moon and in Breaking Dawn.
  • A person
    I think that Alice is better for Bella to stay with, but that may have to do with the fact that I hate Jacob. Alice has been around a helluva lot longer than Jacob and has more training than he ever will. Plus, Alice is a helluva lot cooler than Jacob will ever even try to be.
  • You're totally insane.

    Bye :)
  • Ina
    I think Alice would definetly be the better choice for Bella's protection, 'cause she already sees what the enemy's going to do, so she can vring Bella out of danger, before it happens. That's just a really great advantage. Jake may be strong, but he doesn't have visions (...I guess xD )
  • Ruby (GottaLoveAlice)
    ALICE- deffinitly...

    She could see what the vamp's next move would be --
    Not saying that Jacob wouldn't stand the fight, cause he would, but he might also get hurt...
  • cammie rose
    well...im torn. alice would be very good because she can see the future, but she'd get distracted if there was blood.
    i WAS team edward for years, but then after i read breaking dawn, i switched. Jake rox. but in eclipse, he... is annoying.
    oooh, i just thought opf the best song for jacob in new moon/eclipse!!!! endlessly, by Muse.
    so back to the question: probably alice... though only by a bit.
  • Sarah
    Alice because she sees the future and all that jazz (pun intnded if that is a pun at all......you know what i mean)
  • Allison
    Alice,She loves Bella just as much as Jacob does.Aswell she has a gift to see the future.If any harm is coming Alice is most likely to see it and Im all pro-vampires and feel safer with the the Cullens.There also is a risk with Jacob he loses control,Get's pissed of easily,Isnt as smart as Alice.I think Alice is also a better fighter,gaurd,smarter,quick thinker and she has Baby-sat Bella before... :)
  • Megan
    Oh, and for the other question...no. I'm a paranoid person. I'd make Edward or Alice stay with me at all times, never letting go of them...except for the bathroom. Haha :) I'd drag them with me everywhere! Haha I worry too much. I'd probably like assign all of the Cullens one of my family members to watch over. Haha :)
  • Angela
    Alice.
  • Megan
    Alice!!!!!! Haha, she is my favorite character of all time, so I have to say her :) Jk, jk. I honestly think that, because she can see the future! I mean she is really safe with Jacob, but Alice has more advantages. So...yups :)
  • Cam
    If the basis of your question is to determine which one could handle a newborn vampire fight better - you'll get the answer in just a few more chapters....
  • Amaranthine
    Yay for us English Majors, Kaleb! I'm glad you finally made the change. :) I think you also need to see another thing from Edward's point of view--as a fairly new werewolf, Jacob doesn't really have the best control. If he were to get angry, he could hurt Bella like Sam hurt Emily. Or a lot worse. So it does make sense that Edward doesn't completelt trust Jacob with Bella's safety.
    And to answer the question...Alice, without a doubt.
  • Stephaine
    First off The Snow I HATE IT! I have lived in Utah all my life and winters start in Late November early December and last until Febuary or March, somtimes April. So that means 5 months or snow! UGG!!
    But to anwswer the questiong both Alice! Because Jacob has killed one vampire but that was with his pack not alone and Alice would be more likely to be able to handel it! And she has her hard skin and visons, to help her. So in my opnion Alice is the clear choice!
  • Heather
    Yay for switching to an English major! Math idiots unite! Although you can't be a math idiot if you even made it through a semester of calculus, whereas I wouldn't have made it through an entire class period.

    I would call you Team Switzerland with a leaning towards Edward. Your points on Jacob are spot on. He should have a little more respect for Bella's relationship with Edward and that's what made me loathe Jacob. Is he really that much better for Bella if he keeps forcing himself on her when she doesn't want that? So many of my friends are Team Jacob and it's literally impossible to have a serious discussion with them, cause all they can say is, "Jacob is awwwwwweeeeesooommmmee and Edward is crazy and abusive!" And they can't back anything up. But the same goes for radical Team Edward people lol.

    As for your question, I believe Alice would be better suited for protecting Bella and fighting against vampires. With Jacob, there is always that chance Bella will piss him off greatly and he will loose control and hurt her, plus Jacob doesn't understand the way newborns attack as fully as Alice does. Alice is extremely good at controlling her thirst around Bella, and usually when she is protecting Bella, she has a house full of fellow vampires to help out. Now if the question was between Jasper and Jacob, I think Jacob would be better only slightly, because although Jasper has the extreme best fighting experience, he can't control his thirst.
  • Joy
    *ducks in cover beforehand*
    Jacob.
    I guess certain events in Breaking Dawn kind of explain why.
    I love Alice, just not as a babysitter =P I like being told the blunt truth, and let's face it, the Cullens do tend to try and keep things from Bella ;]
  • julia
    Alice.
    She can see the future, and is a very skilled fighter.
    werewolves often need more than one wolf to finish a vampire, so obviously Alice.

    And Alice is just so much cooler than jacob. Obviously.
  • Dezi
    My best friend and I debate about this every time the saga comes up, and we have agreed to disagree. I am absolutely team Jacob, sure Edward is romantic and all that jazz, but Jacob is warm and soft and Edward is well…not. Of course Edward should “let” Bella go to Jacob’s house. Although Edward left her for like half the second book for some psychotic reason Bella is still madly in love with the guy. As for Jacob, Bella considered him her best friend, emphasis on friend, no matter how hard Jacob tries to change that. Clearly Bella made her choice, and she isn’t’ just gonna up and leave Edward (like she should) because of her best friends feelings. I mean hello, we’ve already seen she can handle herself. As for who she would be safer with, I say give her to Rose, I mean seriously girls isn’t that what you really want anyway…Bella out of the way?
  • Sierra
    Like so many of the others said- I'm betting on Alice. Shes a vampire, she'll see any threats coming, and shes had her family to teach her all she needs to know about fighting.
  • Alice, definitely.

    Very insightful post, Kaleb.
  • CJ
    By the way, MERRY CHRISTMAS, FELIZ NAVIDAD, all that jazz.
  • CJ
    I think Alice because... Say Jake gets knocked into a tree and the newborn gets to her. Jake jumps in and bites the vampire and rams Bella with his side. Now Alice would see that the newborn was going to hit her in the tree and would move out of the way. Bada Bing Bada Boom. No more new born.
  • AussieT
    Can't sympathise with the snow - sorry. We're expecting a balmy 26oC on Xmas Day here. Shorts, T-shirts and outside BBQs - love Aussie Xmas's!

    As with most, I would have to go with Alice because of her skills and vampire experience. But I think Jacob could do the job - just not as efficiently.

    Have a great Xmas everyone!
  • Hope
    I'm from texas as well so I understand the whole snow thing. This was the first time I had ever seen snow so all my yankee friends laughed at me so much.
  • Cara
    I feel your pain with the snow... except that you don't feel the pain, as you did have snow. Haha. Anyways, I live in Simi Valley (it's a small city near Los Angeles) and I don't know the last time it's snowed. I have never even seen snow. So sad.
    Hahaha, I found it funny how you have taken such offense to Edward's dislike for Texas.
    Also, Bella isn't unsure of which way to go- she just thinks she can pull off being with both of them. But if she had to choose, she already knows who she would be with.
    Regarding the question, I think they would both be equally well equipped to stop a vampire attack. Then again, I would prefer Alice, just because I hate Jacob in all the books except Breaking Dawn :)
  • tina
    Ok - firstly - my butterfinger cheesecake would absolutely be better than your Reeses (sorry, it's true) and even during moments of duress, you would taste it!!! ha ha

    Alice is the better protector. Not that Jacob couldn't protect Bella, but he is too emotionally involved to be clear about the boundaries of their friendship. Alice loves Bella in a healthy friendship way. She would never let anything happen to Bella if she could see it coming (which is part of the reason for keeping her away from the werewolves earlier in this book - she can't see). She would see a newborn attack coming, and would do anything (involve anyone) necessary to keep Bella safe.

    Gotta read chapter 15.....you've just gotta read it!!!
  • Carrie
    I think Bella is safer w/ Alice. No vampire would be stupid enough to try to get to her at the Cullens'. They'd never get anywhere near Bella...I totally agree w/ everything you said about the Edward/Bella/Jacob triangle. While I understand Jacob's side of things, I've always felt that his behavior in "Eclipse" was very disrespectful. He needed to trust Bella's judgment. Obviously, if the Cullens wanted to hurt her they would have done so long ago. Most guys (even with 100 years of maturity) would not be able to handle Bella's friendship w/ Jacob, especially if they knew for a fact that he was trying to steal Bella away. However, Edward lets her make her own choices and doesn't interfere w/ her friendship. If he can get over his rivalry w/ the wolves, Jacob should be able to get over his rivalry w/ the vamps. I guess he is just too jealous.
  • Becky
    one newborn alone would have to be REALLY stupid attack either Jake or Alice, but anyway, I'd say Alice. But only because she thinks things through and would know it was coming. Jake doesn't really think, he just acts. Which is probably a bad thing to do when dealing with a newborn. But Jake would be much warmer to be with if it was cold :)
    But still, totally Alice. Her fighting skill would be awesome to watch in action! And she's more experienced with vamp fighting.
  • erin
    JACOB!!because if she was with alice, she would just try to get away, and could end up by herself with NO ONE to protect her. with Jacob, she would already be happy, and wouldn't be trying to go anywhere. so it would be safer for her with jaocb. and jacob and alice would both probably win against a newborn. TEAM JACOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Natalie
    Of course Alice is better! She would kick the newborn's butt!! She has had much more experience fighting vamps than Jacob could ever hope for! And she can see the future, she can't be touched but Jacob is vulnerable and breakable (if only, sigh). I love Jasper! He would be my favorite if there were no Edward! Kaleb, your question will be answered in the book in a few chapters...He He!
    This book is so frustrating! Bella makes stupid choices gallore!! She tries to keep both Edward and Jacob and it can't work! Jacob is a huge jerk, Bella can't talk to him without fighting! Why would you want a friend/ boyfriend like that!? There's no peace! If he loves her so much then why can't he let her be happy with her soul mate, Edward, huh? That is what Edward would do! He would let her have Jacob if that was what she wanted! He is perfect!
    Jacob IS worried for Bella's safety but that is an insignificant part of it! He does whatever it takes to satisfy himself! Edward would not! Bella is first to him, but Jacob puts Jacob first! If Edward was my boyfriend I would not even remember the werewolf's name, what is it again? Oh, Jacob! I don't hate him anymore after I finished the fourth but when I read Eclipse the hatred for him glows healthy and strong!
    Oh, Jacob Black, I want to La Push you off a cliff!! Let Bella have Jacob, I'll take Edward from her!
    Kaleb, the Team Switzerland status should fade away by the end of the next chapter! Read it soon!!
  • Juni
    Oops, I didn't finish my comment. overall I think Alice would be better.
  • Juni
    I'm so glad you posted again, hisgoldeneyes, stephenie's site, and your site is all I mainly go to daily.

    Um, for your question I think since Alice knows the future and has super speed, and strength that she would better take care of Bella. Jacob, on the other hand is made for killing vampires and heals easily. Then again, Alice's vision has holes and Jacob is just a young werewolf.
  • beckysue
    Alice is much more responsible than Jacob-- by far. Plus I think that she would be more fun to hang out with.

    We have plenty of snow every year here in Iowa. In fact, we just had a huge ice storm thingy and everything was coated in an inch of ice. It sucked. But we got out of school for break earlier. YOur reaction in the video is halarious!! I'm surprised you didn't just end up jumping into a pile of it, but I guess you didn't have enough to do that really.

    Ahahahahha, the comment number 44 calls her a "super-pixie". That is PERFECT!!

    Oh, and wish me luck. Next semester I'm taking Calculus. HELP ME!!

    Merry Christmas
  • Katie
    Oh and as for the other question. She would be safer with Jacob watching only beaceus Jacob would howl and call the rest of his pack and the howl would also tip off the cullens and so she gets the best of both worlds there. Where as if only alice were watching she would only get the vampires.
  • Katie
    Well Jacob would win the fight because Alice certinly isnt the strongest vampire and newborns have crazy ammounts of strength.

    But Alice can avoid the fight all together but seeing it and getting bella the heck out of there.

    Hope that answers the question ahah
  • Alice is a compact can of...
    well, Alice.

    I pity the fool who tries to cross that super-pixie. Said fool doesn't have a chance against her.
  • xxtwerdxx
    okay screw team edward and team jacob, i'm team threesome =]

    and i think Bella is safe with either alice or jacob. they both can protect her. well, now that i think of it, alice probably is safer, and while i am not team jacob, i feel awful for him in the third book. =[ and second when she leaves him.
  • Shannon
    Alice, for one, she may appear small but she could kick the vampires ass and two, Because of Alice being a vampire she would know the best way to fight a new born. (Had to change the last one there, nearly gave something away ;o)

    If Jacob was watching Bella..he'd probably pure push his luck. Urgh, I hate Jacob Black.
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