The song for this chapter is Hysteria by Muse
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Finally — my glorious two-week break is complete, which means back to work, back to writing, and back to the next chapter in Eclipse! I will admit my break was quite a joyful one (besides the being-sick half the time part) but it’s always a welcome time to get back to a schedule and start again with the new year. On to Chapter the 15th!
In the previous chapter, Jacob just informed Bella of the fact that he is in love with her, which did not cause much of a reaction in me besides a hiccup (I attribute this more to eating my snack too fast instead of surprise). The fact is that I knew, as well as Bella, and everyone who has read this far, that Jacob is madly in love with her, and would greatly welcome a runaway train flattening every shiny silver Volvo in the surrounding 500 miles of Forks.
But Jacob’s proclamations of love aside, Bella doesn’t buy into it quite so quickly, though she doesn’t outright turn him down either. Bella is a hard person for me to understand. I figure she is doing one of three things:
1. She loves Edward but still thinks she is not good enough for him; thus, not completely getting rid of Jacob leaves someone around to go to if Edward leaves again, OR
2. She loves Edward but can’t stand to hurt Jacob’s feelings, even though her relationship with him doesn’t, ahem, sparkle as much as her relationship with Edward; thus she wants to say she doesn’t love him, but can’t bring herself to do it for fear of crushing him, OR
3. All of the above.
I am personally going for option 3. Considering the fact that no matter what happens, someone will be hurt, I find it slightly disappointing that Bella would continue to lead Jacob on when she knows she won’t love him like Edward. But, she is human, and sometimes humans have a hard time making decisions, especially one’s involving love — whilst the possibility of something actually blooming between her and Jacob looms over her head every time she thinks of cutting ties with him altogether. The key line here is:
Bella to Jacob: “But I don’t want you around for the same reason that you want me around.”
Decoded means: “I want to be Just Friends.”
But you can’t have it both ways. It’s like getting a pet chinchilla (Jacob), feeding it and letting it nibble the ends of your fingers, and then each day at 2 o’clock tossing it out into the foggy streets of London so you can go play with your real pet, a disapproving rabbit (Edward). Eventually, the rabbit will be jealous of the hours you spend with the chinchilla; and the chinchilla will feel as if you’re just using it, and join Her Majesty’s Navy on a trip far away in order to forget you. There can never be two number 1’s in a person’s life.
I did notice one thing that made me feel better about Bella, and that is the fact that she is beginning to realize what she is doing to poor Jacob:
If I wasn’t mean — and greedy, too — I would tell him I didn’t want to be friends and walk away. It was wrong to try to keep my friend when that would hurt him.
Which is true. Bella is in a very hard position, because either leaving or staying will both end up hurting Jacob. Oh, what a predicament.
I find it endlessly funny how Charlie is so blatantly Team Jacob. It’s as if Jacob can do anything he wants because Charlie wants him and Bella together so much:
Charlie: “Why did she hit you?”
“Because I kissed her,” Jacob said, unashamed.
“Good for you kid,” Charlie congratulated.
“So, can I have $500?” Jacob went on.
“Sure,” said Charlie, already pulling it out.
“And the deed to this house.”
“Right here.” Charlie already had it signed.
“I’ll be taking your patrol car on the way out,”
“Sure thing,” Charlie chuckled. “Here, take my left arm and half my furniture while you’re here.”
As I read this chapter, I also wondered what exactly Edward was going to do when he showed up at the house. After all, I know that I would not be pleased in the slightest to know that the guy my girlfriend was hanging out with ultimately led to her breaking her hand. Especially when said hand was broken trying to whack some sense into his head because he tried to force a kiss in. No, I would not be happy at all.
which, as I found out a few pages later, is what nearly happened. When Edward accelerates his Volvo even more than its already-insane speed, you know he is not pleased.
Question for the comments: if Edward and Jacob did get in a fight, who do you think would win? Remember, they’re both fighting for Bella, so it would be worse than usual. Or, do you think they would both end up dying in the process?
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153 Responses
I see a lot of points being made in favor of Edward:
1) He can read minds. Easily too. So +1 for Edward.
2) Even if Bella knows Jacob can phase in a fly, Edward is the fastest vampire Cullen-wise, so it might be harder to pin him down. +1 for Edward.
3) Edward would use strategy rather than brawn, like I would expect Jacob to use. See Edward is use to catching others off guard (refering to his past) and is better with his mind. Like he pointed out a few times, “I can think of a lot more things at the same time.” So he could quiet easily out-manuever Jacob. +1 for Edward.
4) He is the jealous boyfriend. He is REALLY ready to kill Jacob by now anyways. +1 for Edward.
5) Plus… he almost got himself killed over her! What makes you think he won’t do it again?
So, to total everything up, I don’t see much where Jacob could get a leg out, but I see the advantages that Edward has.
Very many, if I do say so.
But, in case you’re wondering if I’m biased… I’m officially Team Swizterland. I like the idea of Bella/Edward and Bella/Jacob. Both got good sides. 😛
I think Edward would win.
I loved that part in the book.
EDWARD!!!! Jacob can rip out Edward’s limbs, but they reassemble themselves. And all Edward would have to do is get one good bite in and the venom would poison Jacob. And just so you know…I read Eclipse in three days so this long, drug out process is ridiculous! READ ALREADY!
Ok, I love #32’s term, “fursplodes”. I’m definitely going to have to use that one in the future.
Edward would definitely take Jacob out in just a few quick and pretty moves. *Plunk* bye bye Jacob’s head.
Remember the story about the Quileutes’ first experience with vampires when even one was too much for several of them until they worked together? Jacob’s just a bitty baby wolfie right now with very little experience and relies too much on his strength, which Edward already can easily match. It’s not like the young wolves have the same strength advantage that young vamps do.
It would be almost too fun for Edward too. Of course, we also have to take into account that he knows how much this would hurt Bella so that might distract him for oh, say, a millisecond. So, while it’s possible that he’s the type to perhaps forfeit a fight for Bella’s sake, he definitely wouldn’t lose based on any other factor.
Edward… but only because he is faster than the average vampire… i think that Jacob could easily beat Carlisle, or Alice
It would be pretty even, but ultimately Edward would win, just because he’s a vampire. Remember; werewolves normally fight in packs.
even if im team jacob, id say edward would win, cause jacob doesnt have a lighter on his so he would be able to burn him…
Edward would definitally win because he can read minds, plus Edward is better at thinking and planning. BUT when Jake starts bleeding that might throw off Edward and give Jake an advantage for a while. but still, Edward all the way. One bite and Jake is finished.
wow, your ideas about Bella’s thoughts are surprisingly accurate (for a guy, lol)
I’m sick and tired of all the Edward fangirls…-_- No, I don’t have a problem with Edward…I just like Jacob better than Edward because: Who would want a cold, dead, sparkly bloodsucker when you can have a tall, built, and very hot werewolf? >=D It’s hard being a Jacob fan in the Twilight fandom when EVERYONE and their mother likes Edward better.
Jacob would definitely win, hands-down, end of story…goodbye. 😀 For one thing, werewolves are the only creatures besides other vampires that can rip a vampire to shreds! Edward may be faster but Jacob is stronger.
Ugh…it’s so hard being a Jacob fan and it just tears at me when Edward fangirls bash Jacob so much.
So yeah, I’m Team Jacob. No, I don’t think he and Bella were meant for each other in the books. I’m not delusional. I just like Jacob better as a person and since Bella is distracted by Edward, I can have Jake all to myself. >=3 Well, I actually can’t…and if I said why it’d be a spoiler. T_T
EDWARD!!!! He loves her more, beacuse, hello, Jacob hasn’t imprinted with her!!!!!! But Edward wouln’t kill jacob on purpose beacuse it would make Bella unhappy.
Well it depends on if they’re going to fight one on one. See you would like to think they would but in reality I think a chain-reaction would occur. Unfortunatly I believe that would leave most of the Cullens and werewolves dead. I think Carlisle would stop the fight eventually but honestly, Edward was fighting for his true love so he’s sure to have taken down a few mangy mutts. (Don’t hate on last comment, i’m describing them from Edward’s perspective, mkay sweet cheeks).
Now you should also know that after half of her family and friends kill eachother Bella’s not going to be the happiest person around and I think she’ll Juliet (and we all know what Juliet did, the hormonal little 13 year that offed herself when she awoke to find her true love dead).
Dude Jacob would so win. He was MADE to kill vampires and as james has stated ed’s not as strong as some vampires he’s just fast and as Jacob stated he’s fast enough to outrun him. +) he he volcano thrown at Jacob was funny maybe after ed throws the volcano the fight will start *grins with anticipation*
Edward would win!!!
yeah, they are both fast and strong, but Edward cheats…HE READS MINDS!!! LOL
They’d tear each other to shreds in the fight, but as Jacob would be in little wolfy tatters strewn about the forest, he would be unable to burn the pieces of Edward, who would blessedly reassemble, apologize profusely to a weeping Bella, swearing to make amends, and then sparkle to achieve this.
I loved the chinchilla analogy! And I can tell you must be trying to keep both Team Jacob and Team Edward happy with your posts now, which is very nice.
As much as I hate to say it.. Edward probably would win the fight. He doesnt wound.. and he reads minds. Crap.
Your little Charlie/Jacob conversation made me giggle! That was great!
I think it’d be a close fight. Jake would easily turn into his wolf form and since the wolves share one mind, the others would come to help. Of course, who knows how long that would take…but, of course, they’re all over the surrounding woods so really, it might not take long at all. But I don’t think they wold ever get into a physical fight… If anything, they’d stand there shooting off insults like loaded shotguns.
They both know very well that if a fight broke out, it wouldn’t help Bella at all… So really, we might as well leave this question alone, since it would never happen.
Great post, Kaleb!!!
Edward. Duh. We all know what angry vampires are capable of doing, and werewolves are definitley more vulnerable. Besides, Edward loves Bella more than Jacob. Come on people, let’s face it!
KALEB! BEWARE! SPOILERS HERE!
Ok. In the middle-ish end-ish Edward says he can be noble and let Bella choose, and he will live with her decision. Jacob? No. He practically forces here to pick him and won’t back off! Edward loves Bella more. I think that’s pretty strong motivation. Plus, he’s got a lot of stored up grudges to take care of 😉
The chinchilla is cuter, but Edward would win. He can hear what Jacob is thinking before he does it, AND he’s faster than everyone else. Poor Jake…
I think that If they started to fight with bella still befreinding Jacob, Edward would not fight back. He would not let Jacob kill him but he would also not fight untill it ment saving his life. Counter to that, I do think that Jacob if given the opertuinty would off edward in a heart beat. Thats the diffrence between them, Edward knows it would hurt bella if he was to hurt Jacob, and edward cares more for her then anyone else, so he would not intentionaly hurt her. Jacob doens’t love her the way that Edward does, he loves her but he is still too selfish right now.
If they just went out and out fighting Edward would totaly kick Jacobs rear!
Jaco would “win” because Edward would not fight. Edward knows that fighting Jaccob, even though Bella is mad at him would hurt bella. Edward would do anything to NOT hurt Bella because that is how much he loves her.
Jaccob would be eager to fight because he wouldnt really care if he hurt Edward and then in the process hurt Bella he’d just want to win so he could prove hes the bigger “man”.
In conclusion, I think that Edward would still “win” Bella’s heart because he loves her enough not to fight but Jaccob would win the fight.
Jacob. Edward would never do anything to hurt bella, so he would never hurt jacob. Jacob would not win because he was the better fighter, he would win because edward would let him.
I saw something written byapril on january 5 and i had to comment on it, but it might be a little off subject. Where did people get this idea that love is better when its easy and effortless? (not saying that this is what april said or how she feels) Thats why her and edward are supposed to be, not her and jacob. A love that is easy, and effortless, with no problems and no trials and no mistakes……sorry guys, but in my experience, thats not love. Thats friendship.
You are hilarious. I’m glad I found this site :o)
~Bri
In a battle between Edward and Jacob, I would think that Edward would win for two reasons:
1. He has almost 100 years more fighting experience and training than Jacob
2. He can read Jacob’s mind
However, I believe that Jacob would be a very skillful and persavering fighter as well, so the fight would probably be very close and the winner would probably have some serious injuries as well.
Edward would totally kick Jacob’s little puppy A**! and truthfully I would say he deserved it. But there wouldn’t be any death because well you know…
I think it would end up at a stalemate, or never happen in the first place. Edward wouldn’t challenge Jacob so as to not hurt Bella, because I think she would go crazy if her true love and her best friend were fighting, and Edward would never hurt her. If, however, Bella didn’t care about Jacob, it’d be a stalemate because Jacob wouldn’t fight without his pack to back him up in case the other Cullens appear or Jake needs backup, because neither Quil or Embry would let Jake go alone. However, Edward has mind reading abilities and superior reflexes, and Alice as a sister to alert him if his bowling plans suddenly disappear. It’s hard to predict an outcome.
I cast my vote for Edward! Jacob is still “young” in both age and experience (the pack has only killed one vampire, which was scared silly of the big wolves, I dont see Edward being scared of Jacob) and Edward is seasoned from years of play fighting with his brothers – that and he would know every move wolf boy would make before wolfboy did.
edward would defenetly win ^^
well knowing what happens in the next book… Edward would most definatly win.
I don’t think they would ever get into a fight… Both of them would be too afraid of dying and wounding Bella emotionally in the process, so they would avoid a fight at all costs. How about that for some logic, hm? xD
Jacob.
He whole-heartedly believes that Bella is better off without Edward in her life. And, whether or not Edward feels mutually, doesn’t matter because he knows how much pain it would bring Bella to not have Jacob. Which is why, regardless of the how much it hurts him, he stays relatively quiet about her friendship with Jacob.
I don’t think you can entirely blame Bella for the situation they are all in, either. She’s known that Jacob has felt more for her than she’s felt for him for quite sometime now and she’s done what she can to let him down gently. Should she deny herself his friendship because he can’t understand boundaries? He was the one who told her that he was a big boy and could handle it. He told her he was going to hold onto the hope that someday she would change her mind. He didn’t give up. So what was Bella suppose to do? Cut him out of her life?
Throughout the story we hear about what a selfless person Bella is. How she was thinking about her mother’s happiness when she banished herself to Forks, how she tries to preserve Edward’s reputation rather than her own well-being when they first got together, etc. But here’s the first time in the book where we actually see Bella be selfish. Why? Is it because she can’t trust Edward not to leave again and she wants to make sure that she at least has someone in that event – Jacob? Is it just to make Charlie happy? Is it to make Jacob happy? I can’t quite figure out who benefits the most from that relationship, but I think that’s where the answer lies.
hmmm even though I think it would be Edward, it would be pretty funny if there was a continuous fight where Edward would be ripping Jacob to shreds but Jacob would spontaneously heals so the fight would never end.
EDWARD ALL THE WAY!!! He doesn’t tire, he’s stronger, and u would have to shred and burn him into a million pieces b4 he died.
Edward would win, no question. But he wouldn’t let it come to a fight cuz he knows that he would hurt bella with killing jacob.
edward, hands down. not JUST because i love him so much more than jacob (although that has a big part in my decision XD), but because i think he has the upperhand. i mean come on, edward can read jacob’s mind, he is more experienced, and edward is not as vulnerable as jacob (like many people above have mentioned) and one more thing
rabbit > pet chinchilla!!
>:D XD lol 😛
oh! and it seems like edward loves bella ALOT more than jacob. i forgot that part >.<
hey i have a rabbit and a chinchilla– not but i almost did! TrU! lol– EDWARD WOULD WIN– DUH!
kisser back babe!
Ah ah ah! The dialogue between Jacob and Charlie was i-l-a-r-i-o-u-s!! How come it took me so long to run into this blog (I’m really enjoying all your blog-entries)!!
Anyway, back to your question: In my opinion, were those two to enter a real fight, Edward would win (I like Jacob better, but Edward seems to be somehow stronger…). However, I bet they wouldn’t go as far as to let such a tragedy take place…they’d probably realise they are hurting Bella the most in the middle of the “confrontation” and hopefully stop before anyone is severely injured!
I think Edward would win by skill and experience… he might not be unscathed… HOWEVER… Edward would probably NOT want to hurt Jacob too much or kill him for fear of hurting Bella… Would Jacob return the sentiment? Highly doubt it at this point… His mindset seems to be: Get rid of Edward and Bella will be mine.
After all, I know that I would not be pleased in the slightest to know that the guy my girlfriend was hanging out with ultimately led to her breaking her hand. Especially when said hand was broken trying to whack some sense into his head because he tried to force a kiss in. No, I would not be happy at all.- AMEN. I would not like that if my bf were like that either.. ESPECIALLY since Bella is kinda iffy and cruel to both of them.. and Jacob is definitely waiting for a NON platonic relationship.
As for Charlie… I don’t care how much he likes Jacob, that is the wrong way for a cop to react… Can’t imagine what he would have done if Jacob copped a feel. Bring out the champagne?
GRAH. At least Edward admits his masochism. Jake would do well to admit the same. Two men, loving the same (plain, is she?) girl, and neither one of them willing to make her choose. Is it really because they don’t want to hurt her, or is it because they don’t want to LOSE her? Bella’s bull-headed enough to dump them BOTH if they tried to make her choose. So, they just continue on in this circle. At least she gets the cop-out of having all these human emotions. Apparently, mythical creatures are all scaredy-cat martyrs too… Any woman willing to admit it knows why she doesn’t choose… it’s because she doesn’t have to. Well, maybe I’m being a little harsh on the Bella front. Somehow she’s deluded herself into believing that she doesn’t love Jacob. Just don’t return her in less than perfect condition again! Already Edward is admitting that he knows she’ll get over this whole complete lack of respect for personal space thing and go to see Jacob again. Also, he’s really hoping to get the chance to tear into that wolf, because, really, if anyone were to get hit in the head by a stray meteor, wouldn’t it be Bella Swan? I thought for sure you would comment on that part, Kaleb!
GAH!
I never get a good number. It’s always the odd one out… *sigh*
But now, for the question.
HELL YES!
Edward would totally win. It’s over Bella, so you know that’s going to make things hurt more, and Jake a vurnurability that Edward doesn’t.
Jake is MORTAL.
So, totally. Edward wins. YAY EDWARD! I just love him so much… But then Bella gets sad. So he gets sad. So she gets guilty. Then she gets happy. And then he’s happy. And the world is a better place.
*smiles.*
My work here is done.
And I love the BLUE WORDS. I wish that worked for me, cuz I got a reeeeelly long wish list.
*giggles.*
So, yeah…
ilua!
*Edward* hands down. He’s older, wiser, definitely more cautious, knows how to fight smart…and it’s Edward! Of course he would win! ; )
What if Edward didn’t fight Jacob because he knows that Bella still loves Jacob as a friend? I don’t think Edward would hurt Jacob as long as Bella was alive or unless Jacob suddenly actually posed a threat to Bella. But if that did happen…Edward would definately win, however, I still question that for a few reasons.
I think that Edward would win if he TRIED. I don’t think Edward would hurt Jacob, because he knows it would hurt Bella in the process. This is why i am so Team Edward, Jacob wouldn’t think about that.
Im team Jake all the way but seeing as vampire venom is poisonous to werewolves…….the leech sadly wins
Man ! That was funny when bella tried to sucker-punch Jake !!!! 😀
Edward would totally win in the end… He's stronger and has the benefit of reading minds… not to mention that truthfully… his tie to Bella is stronger 🙂
Edward would totally win in the end… He's stronger and has the benefit of reading minds… not to mention that truthfully… his tie to Bella is stronger 🙂
u said 1,2,and 3 but i think 4 would be she loves them each but Jacob as a brother only he does not see it that way but if she had to pick her true love (Edward) over her best friend (Jacob) she would never no who to pick even if Jacob bugs her because he will not stop trying but she should just say to him if she ever gave in it would feel insest
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