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bahahahha kaleb youre hilarious. i seriously thought he was. so i was all pshh! i bet he's like an artist. those people always think differently xD im soo glad you find all this info. id be so out of the loop if it werent for youu congrats on your bran hambric stuff last night. LOVED the blogtv
bahahaha. you totally got me, Kaleb! I clicked on the link and totally didn't get it, I was like “he's not flipping anybody off! What are you talking about? where are you from, boy?!” lol. then I saw the comments and realized it was a joke. silly TwilightGuy.
what? why is everyone saying 'haha- you got me!' he is quite clearly sticking his fingers up at the camera… =/ is that some american thing where this is okay? I'm so confused!
In the US, the 2 fingers don't really mean anything. If anything, it means 'peace out.' Out here, if you want to flip someone off, you use only the middle finger.
Me too! I see this gesture as an insult, but it isn't in the US:
“The V sign, when the palm is facing toward the person giving the sign, has long been an insulting gesture in England, and later in the rest of the United Kingdom; its use is largely restricted to the UK, Ireland, Australia and New Zealand. It is frequently used to signify defiance (especially to authority), contempt or derision”
I love how the people from the US are like “Haha, Kaleb” and the people from Europe are like “He really is flipping us off!” I never realized there were that many people from out of the US on this site!
I am no expert on swearing, but here's the situation from my area of the land of pavements and tea.
We do have “flipping people off” or “the middle finger”, but we also have “the Vicky” or “the V”. When the palm faces the person who is making the sign, it's the V, but when the palm faces the person recieving the sign, it's peace.
Zella is 100% correct though i haven't heard it called 'The Vicky' before- may have to use that one. He is from the UK and doing the two fingered salute to us, I'm afraid- though I guess it doesn't matter either way right? Anyway I have never seen anything by him so I guess I have to before I decide if I'm excited about him or terrified of him ruining it!
It is nice to have a name for Eclipse's director already, though
So is he trying to flip us off, or is he trying to tell us “peace?” I'm American, so I'm just gonna say he's saying peace. He sorta looks like hes in a “im gonna flip someone off” mood, though….
Haha, it’s kinda funny that people are saying, “Haha, you tricked me,” when what he’s doing is actually offensive. At least, it is in the UK, and since David Slade is British, he probably meant it to be offensive. My understanding of it is that in the olden days before guns etc. when enemy soldiers were captured, those two fingers were cut off because those were the fingers used to draw a bow string, so if they were released then they couldn’t be archers anymore and then wouldn’t be a threat. (Also, I suspect that having a couple of fingers removed would probably impede their sword wielding skills as well.) So giving someone the “V” sign was like saying “Mwahahah! I still have my fingers and you don’t! So there! Take that, you fingerless buffoon!” Or something like that anyway. I don’t think it has quite the same meaning today, but in the UK I think it is maybe considered equally offensive as the middle finger. But in an unusual fit of deciding-to-check-my-facts-before-posting-stuff-on-the-internet, this is what Wikipedia says on the subject of the origins of the “V” sign:
According to a popular legend the two-fingers salute and/or V sign derives from the gestures of longbowmen fighting in the English army at the Battle of Agincourt (1415) during the Hundred Years' War. The story claims that the French claimed that they would cut off the arrow-shooting fingers of all the English and Welsh longbowmen after they had won the battle at Agincourt. But the English came out victorious and showed off their two fingers, still intact. Historian Juliet Barker quotes Jean Le Fevre (who fought on the English side at Agincourt) as saying that Henry V included a reference to the French cutting off longbowmen's fingers in his pre-battle speech. There is no record of this explanation for the V sign before the 1970s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_sign
So there you have it. Archey is a common theme, but you can never believe everything you read, even if it's on Wikipedia. In any case, I think it's meant to be offensive.
I am no expert on swearing, but here's the situation from my area of the land of pavements and tea.
We do have “flipping people off” or “the middle finger”, but we also have “the Vicky” or “the V”. When the palm faces the person who is making the sign, it's the V, but when the palm faces the person recieving the sign, it's peace.
Zella is 100% correct though i haven't heard it called 'The Vicky' before- may have to use that one. He is from the UK and doing the two fingered salute to us, I'm afraid- though I guess it doesn't matter either way right? Anyway I have never seen anything by him so I guess I have to before I decide if I'm excited about him or terrified of him ruining it!
It is nice to have a name for Eclipse's director already, though
So is he trying to flip us off, or is he trying to tell us “peace?” I'm American, so I'm just gonna say he's saying peace. He sorta looks like hes in a “im gonna flip someone off” mood, though….
Haha, it’s kinda funny that people are saying, “Haha, you tricked me,” when what he’s doing is actually offensive. At least, it is in the UK, and since David Slade is British, he probably meant it to be offensive. My understanding of it is that in the olden days before guns etc. when enemy soldiers were captured, those two fingers were cut off because those were the fingers used to draw a bow string, so if they were released then they couldn’t be archers anymore and then wouldn’t be a threat. (Also, I suspect that having a couple of fingers removed would probably impede their sword wielding skills as well.) So giving someone the “V” sign was like saying “Mwahahah! I still have my fingers and you don’t! So there! Take that, you fingerless buffoon!” Or something like that anyway. I don’t think it has quite the same meaning today, but in the UK I think it is maybe considered equally offensive as the middle finger. But in an unusual fit of deciding-to-check-my-facts-before-posting-stuff-on-the-internet, this is what Wikipedia says on the subject of the origins of the “V” sign:
According to a popular legend the two-fingers salute and/or V sign derives from the gestures of longbowmen fighting in the English army at the Battle of Agincourt (1415) during the Hundred Years' War. The story claims that the French claimed that they would cut off the arrow-shooting fingers of all the English and Welsh longbowmen after they had won the battle at Agincourt. But the English came out victorious and showed off their two fingers, still intact. Historian Juliet Barker quotes Jean Le Fevre (who fought on the English side at Agincourt) as saying that Henry V included a reference to the French cutting off longbowmen's fingers in his pre-battle speech. There is no record of this explanation for the V sign before the 1970s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_sign
So there you have it. Archey is a common theme, but you can never believe everything you read, even if it's on Wikipedia. In any case, I think it's meant to be offensive.
April 22nd, 2009 at 9:39 pm
LOL. You tricked me!
April 22nd, 2009 at 9:47 pm
bahahahha
kaleb youre hilarious.
congrats on your bran hambric stuff last night. LOVED the blogtv 
i seriously thought he was.
so i was all pshh!
i bet he's like an artist.
those people always think differently xD
im soo glad you find all this info. id be so out of the loop if it werent for youu
April 22nd, 2009 at 9:53 pm
I didn't think you would have the link to see the picture if he actually was.
well lol nice joke.
April 22nd, 2009 at 10:09 pm
WOW! I feel like an idiot for actually clicking on the picture
April 22nd, 2009 at 10:26 pm
April 22nd, 2009 at 10:28 pm
OMG! I seriously thought he was, I'm like I DO NOT WANT A GUY LIKE THAT DIRECTING MY FAVORITE SERIES' MOVIES! lol though, funny
April 22nd, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Wow, you got me. I seriously thought you were for real. He's like, really really short tho! It's cute!
April 22nd, 2009 at 10:53 pm
Depends, that's how they flip you off in Britain…
April 22nd, 2009 at 10:54 pm
haha, i saw this on a different website before you put this up, so i knew he wasn't:)
but you are a little trickster kaleb!
April 22nd, 2009 at 11:07 pm
lol omg u tricked me
April 22nd, 2009 at 11:37 pm
Kaleb, you inspired me to publish my first web site!! PLEASE come see it. I wrote some stuff about you!!!!!!
Congrats on Bran Hambric!!
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:07 am
bahahaha. you totally got me, Kaleb! I clicked on the link and totally didn't get it, I was like “he's not flipping anybody off! What are you talking about? where are you from, boy?!” lol. then I saw the comments and realized it was a joke. silly TwilightGuy.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:16 am
now i feel like an idiot 4 thinking that u did that! but nice joke!
April 23rd, 2009 at 3:10 am
what? why is everyone saying 'haha- you got me!'
he is quite clearly sticking his fingers up at the camera… =/
is that some american thing where this is okay?
I'm so confused!
April 23rd, 2009 at 3:13 am
I just googled and found my way onto IMDB and he is from the uk
so as far as he is concerned he IS swearing, even if no one else thinks so!
just out of interest, what does that mean in the usa (or anywhere else) where it isnt swearing?
April 23rd, 2009 at 3:33 am
In the US, the 2 fingers don't really mean anything. If anything, it means 'peace out.' Out here, if you want to flip someone off, you use only the middle finger.
April 23rd, 2009 at 4:00 am
Me too! I see this gesture as an insult, but it isn't in the US:
“The V sign, when the palm is facing toward the person giving the sign, has long been an insulting gesture in England, and later in the rest of the United Kingdom; its use is largely restricted to the UK, Ireland, Australia and New Zealand. It is frequently used to signify defiance (especially to authority), contempt or derision”
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_sign#V_sign_as_a...
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:19 am
lol. haha.. I was tricked.
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:48 am
umm in britain that IS considered flipping someone off.. so yes basically he is.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:49 pm
I love how the people from the US are like “Haha, Kaleb” and the people from Europe are like “He really is flipping us off!”
I never realized there were that many people from out of the US on this site!
April 23rd, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Yup, 'tis in England. Actually originated because its those two fingers that were used in archery.
April 23rd, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Wow, you got me too! Really? Guess I won't tell anyone “peace out” in Britain. LOL!
April 23rd, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Ha ha. Good one. You definitely tricked me.
April 23rd, 2009 at 5:21 pm
omg kaleb you are hilarious i thought u were serious lol
April 23rd, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Haha, I'm from Britian!
I am no expert on swearing, but here's the situation from my area of the land of pavements and tea.
We do have “flipping people off” or “the middle finger”, but we also have “the Vicky” or “the V”. When the palm faces the person who is making the sign, it's the V, but when the palm faces the person recieving the sign, it's peace.
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Zella is 100% correct
though i haven't heard it called 'The Vicky' before- may have to use that one.
He is from the UK and doing the two fingered salute to us, I'm afraid- though I guess it doesn't matter either way right?
Anyway I have never seen anything by him so I guess I have to before I decide if I'm excited about him or terrified of him ruining it!
It is nice to have a name for Eclipse's director already, though
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Don't ever to that to me again, Kaleb! You scared the crap out of me…..
I'm not sure about David Slade, but I trust Summit to make a good choice. Plus, Catherine was AWESOME and Chris seems like a really good director.
*crosses fingers*
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:45 pm
So is he trying to flip us off, or is he trying to tell us “peace?” I'm American, so I'm just gonna say he's saying peace. He sorta looks like hes in a “im gonna flip someone off” mood, though….
April 23rd, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Haha, it’s kinda funny that people are saying, “Haha, you tricked me,” when what he’s doing is actually offensive. At least, it is in the UK, and since David Slade is British, he probably meant it to be offensive.
My understanding of it is that in the olden days before guns etc. when enemy soldiers were captured, those two fingers were cut off because those were the fingers used to draw a bow string, so if they were released then they couldn’t be archers anymore and then wouldn’t be a threat. (Also, I suspect that having a couple of fingers removed would probably impede their sword wielding skills as well.) So giving someone the “V” sign was like saying “Mwahahah! I still have my fingers and you don’t! So there! Take that, you fingerless buffoon!” Or something like that anyway. I don’t think it has quite the same meaning today, but in the UK I think it is maybe considered equally offensive as the middle finger.
But in an unusual fit of deciding-to-check-my-facts-before-posting-stuff-on-the-internet, this is what Wikipedia says on the subject of the origins of the “V” sign:
According to a popular legend the two-fingers salute and/or V sign derives from the gestures of longbowmen fighting in the English army at the Battle of Agincourt (1415) during the Hundred Years' War. The story claims that the French claimed that they would cut off the arrow-shooting fingers of all the English and Welsh longbowmen after they had won the battle at Agincourt. But the English came out victorious and showed off their two fingers, still intact. Historian Juliet Barker quotes Jean Le Fevre (who fought on the English side at Agincourt) as saying that Henry V included a reference to the French cutting off longbowmen's fingers in his pre-battle speech. There is no record of this explanation for the V sign before the 1970s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_sign
So there you have it. Archey is a common theme, but you can never believe everything you read, even if it's on Wikipedia.
In any case, I think it's meant to be offensive.
April 23rd, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Ha ha. Good one. You definitely tricked me.
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:21 pm
omg kaleb you are hilarious i thought u were serious lol
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Haha, I'm from Britian!
I am no expert on swearing, but here's the situation from my area of the land of pavements and tea.
We do have “flipping people off” or “the middle finger”, but we also have “the Vicky” or “the V”. When the palm faces the person who is making the sign, it's the V, but when the palm faces the person recieving the sign, it's peace.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Zella is 100% correct
though i haven't heard it called 'The Vicky' before- may have to use that one.
He is from the UK and doing the two fingered salute to us, I'm afraid- though I guess it doesn't matter either way right?
Anyway I have never seen anything by him so I guess I have to before I decide if I'm excited about him or terrified of him ruining it!
It is nice to have a name for Eclipse's director already, though
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Don't ever to that to me again, Kaleb! You scared the crap out of me…..
I'm not sure about David Slade, but I trust Summit to make a good choice. Plus, Catherine was AWESOME and Chris seems like a really good director.
*crosses fingers*
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:45 pm
So is he trying to flip us off, or is he trying to tell us “peace?” I'm American, so I'm just gonna say he's saying peace. He sorta looks like hes in a “im gonna flip someone off” mood, though….
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Haha, it’s kinda funny that people are saying, “Haha, you tricked me,” when what he’s doing is actually offensive. At least, it is in the UK, and since David Slade is British, he probably meant it to be offensive.
My understanding of it is that in the olden days before guns etc. when enemy soldiers were captured, those two fingers were cut off because those were the fingers used to draw a bow string, so if they were released then they couldn’t be archers anymore and then wouldn’t be a threat. (Also, I suspect that having a couple of fingers removed would probably impede their sword wielding skills as well.) So giving someone the “V” sign was like saying “Mwahahah! I still have my fingers and you don’t! So there! Take that, you fingerless buffoon!” Or something like that anyway. I don’t think it has quite the same meaning today, but in the UK I think it is maybe considered equally offensive as the middle finger.
But in an unusual fit of deciding-to-check-my-facts-before-posting-stuff-on-the-internet, this is what Wikipedia says on the subject of the origins of the “V” sign:
According to a popular legend the two-fingers salute and/or V sign derives from the gestures of longbowmen fighting in the English army at the Battle of Agincourt (1415) during the Hundred Years' War. The story claims that the French claimed that they would cut off the arrow-shooting fingers of all the English and Welsh longbowmen after they had won the battle at Agincourt. But the English came out victorious and showed off their two fingers, still intact. Historian Juliet Barker quotes Jean Le Fevre (who fought on the English side at Agincourt) as saying that Henry V included a reference to the French cutting off longbowmen's fingers in his pre-battle speech. There is no record of this explanation for the V sign before the 1970s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_sign
So there you have it. Archey is a common theme, but you can never believe everything you read, even if it's on Wikipedia.
In any case, I think it's meant to be offensive.