Reading Breaking Dawn: Chapter 14 (You Know Things Are Bad When You Feel Guilty For Being Rude To Vampires)

June 5th, 2009 at 10:30 pm by Kaleb Nation

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This morning I discovered, much to my dismay, that June marks the fact that half of 2009 has gone by already, and that there are only 3 months and 11 days until I turn that glorious age of 21 on September 16 (if I hear one more thing about sharing Nick Jonas’ birthday, I think I will randomly burst into flame). What has happened to the first half of this year? Where hath all mine time gone? I don’t think I can answer that question. The closest question I can answer is as to what I have not been doing, such as keeping my room clean:

This photo was taken 2 weeks ago. It is still applicable, because hardly anything has changed.

When I showed this to one of my former roommates, he simply laughed and said at least I didn’t have roaches and bedbugs. Oh course I’m lucky for that. I’m also lucky I don’t have scorpions and goblins either. Oh the joys of college living.

To help ease my mind from such frivolous troubles, I do what I usually do, and push all the mess into the corner and do something else: namely, reading the next chapter of Breaking Dawn. Much to my enjoyment, this chapter starts off with some immediate lulz, because just imagining Jacob Black in a sundress is nearly enough to make me fall out of my chair. I wish that I could conjure up some sort of Photoshopped image of this, but for Taylor Lautner’s sake, I will refrain and simply post the next best thing

Jacob makes a wonderful point about him and Bella: how her reaction to seeing him just makes it all the harder to stay away. He knows that she is married, and much to my dismay, he is actually trying to stay clear of her and Edward.

Finally, I get to see what is going though Jacob’s head when situations like this come up. Jacob isn’t so much sticking around so he can take advantage of any chance he has to steal Bella from Edward (though I have little doubt he would take this opportunity). Jacob seems to be staying simply because he, like Edward, values Bella’s happiness above his own, which I hadn’t really seen as his motivation as much before when I was watching from outside his head.

This interests me greatly, because the reason I’ve been annoyed at Jacob so much throughout these books is because he appeared to be so self-centered. But it seems as if Bella could just not want him around anymore, and he would retreat. The real reason he keeps coming around, and interfering with Bella and Edward, actually appears to be because Bella won’t be happy if he leaves.

“If she would just not care… Or more than that–really not want me around. It would be so much easier to stay away.”

So who really is to blame here? I keep asking myself this, and I have throughout the Saga after New Moon. It confuses me so much because there is no solution, and my rational brain demands one of this problem. There is a triangle with equal weight put upon all three people — Jacob Black needs to somehow find someone else to love, so that he will be happy; and in the process, be able to leave Bella happy, since she knows he will be alright.

I’m curious to know what other person actually told Rosalie the blonde joke about the mirror at the bottom of the pool:

Rosalie walks by.

RANDOM IDIOT: Hey! Know how to drown a blonde? You glue a mirror to the bottom of a pool!

-PUNCH- -YELL- -WHACK-

“That’s what you get for those blonde jokes!” Rosalie snarled.

It makes me happy to see Esme and Carlisle actually trying to help Jacob and his rogue band of wolves out. I have a very good feeling about this eventually playing a huge part in bridging the gap between their two peoples.

QUESTION FOR THE COMMENTS: Do you think if Bella told Jacob to leave, he would actually do it, or would he continue to stick around trying to get her back?

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GraceLautner

lol

Nina

There is also this page to German??

marissa

ah yes, my room looks like that too.

but personally I wouldn't mind having a goblin or two roaming around :) lol

RosalieC

I think that if she told him to leave (and meant it) then he would. It would be hard for him though. It would be the same as if Bella told Edward to leave. He wouldn't be able to stop thinking about her and he would still love her. He and Edward are quite similar in my opinion.
Also, I think you pretty much exactly share my opinions about Jacob. He seemed selfish until you got to see the motives behind it all. And part of that is that he is human and therefore not as smooth as Edward or other vampires. Edward would seem very selfish if you looked past the part where he can think super fast and come up with excuses for it and deliver the line like he had been thinking that the entire time. I try to look past Edward's awesome hair and see all sides of him. I try to look past Jacob's rockin body and see all sides of him. Yes, I am a fangirl. And you can really see the good and the bad of both and that, ultimatly, both want whatever Bella wants. This doesn't mean it would be easy for either of them as you can see with both of them. It hurts Jake to stay but he won't leave Bella and it hurts Edward to watch Bella kill herself to have mutant spawn (and I mean that in an extremely loving way, not being sarcastic at all) but he will let her because it is what she wants.

Mylles

Okay...This chapter was my ultimate downfall. Jacob wasn't as selffish as I had always thought him to be. This was the chapter I decided that maybe...and I mean maybe...that Jacob was still the funny, happy, loving we knew him to be before he became a werewolf and became elligible for those ever tedious anger management classes. But I still don't think he would leave. What really struck the flame that became my despise for this character was a mere few sentences near the end of Eclipse. He told Bella that he was like the true mother in the story of King Solomon. That did it. I knew I would never forgive him for that. It meant something more to me than it did to Bella. It meant he thought they were meant to be, as meant to be as Alice and Jasper, Rosalie and Emmet, Esme and Carlisle. And I have vowed to never believe that. Whats more I have always known Edward deserves her more. He's lived much longer than any of us. He's fought his very nature to keep the humans, who by the way of the food chain were meant to be his dinner, ALIVE! Edward who cares so much for Bella he would risk everything, and I mean everything, for her life. But Jacob has always seemed to think he wa more worthy. My response to that...ARE YOU FLIPPING KIDDING ME!!! Some of my friends call me prejiduce, that I just can't get over the fact that Bella loves Jacob. And no I can't. It makes me angry with her to see her nearly throw aways a man three hundred time the man Jacob will ever be, thats my own opinion though.

Rachel

I Totaly Agree Wiv U!!! I Hate Jacob!!!!!

Mylles

But yeah I guess Jake deserves someone. *wink wink nod nod*

Aadya

All Jacob wants to make bella happy. He will surely go if she really really actually wants him to.

jussie

I too was just a little pissed at Jack through out the saga but about now in BD found that it was all for something in the biger picture that I just couldnt get.

It was Bella that NEEDED him there but even she was like what is with this Jake walks in the room and I almost jump out of my skin haapy ???? and Edward was just happy that Jack was giving her that in what he thinks is her final hours I think that if Jack was to leave now Edward would go get him or at least send someone to just to keep Bella happy as long as he could and there is a brother like relationship forming with them too and if they were to loss Bella they would NEED each other as family.

I think Jack gets away with the blonde jokes because Rose see what he means to Bella and Edward and she wants them to be happy but I think she has a breaking point and Jack is on thin ice maybe the next book in the saga could be called Breaking Jacob LOL *Lame I know* LOL ;-)

Rachel

Hes Called Jacob Not Jack Lol

jussie

How shame I ment Jake as Bella calls him *Blush* LOL Thanks for the heads up Ill have to watch my typing :-)

Linnee

HAHAHAH.

Happy early b-day to you AND Nick. ;)
aww.. I'm sorry for teasing you.

Look on the bright side, you're legal enough to drink, but if you come up here to Toronto, you're already legal. Not that I'm saying anything.
I'm 15. :D

I think if Bella did tell Jacob to leave, he won't do it.

Gisselle

I think He would leave because he really does love her that much. ANd Kaleb, you also share your birthday with Mexico. September 15 or 16th (I can never remember) is Mexicos Independence day.

Jackie

Well I think that if Bella really meant it, than Jacob would leave. He wouldn’t deny her of that, like you mentioned in your post. He puts Bella before himself and it would also help him get over her eventually.

Ahhh you birthday is coming up. I’m going to try and remember that, for when I go on, on that day. Although I might get the day wrong, because of the whole time-difference thing. It’s the thought that counts right.

Oh I love the picture of you in the boiling pot. So funny!! My mum even laughed when she walked by my laptop!

FabiolaBlack

Happy Early 21st Bday!!!
Jacob is actually a good person, hes not trying to stole bella from edward anymore he's just trying to keep her happy & alive, even if it is hard 4 him, Bella needs him more than he imagines. You'll know why....
Actually your bday is on the same day of the mexican DIA DE INDEPENDENCIA is likee 4 of july for u americaan peooplee, if u liveed on mexicooo u wont have classes that day and the day beforee....it would be great dont u think??
havee a nicee day Kaleeb and keep writing
PS. i hope u 2 someday make us that epic photoshop of taylor lautner in a summer dress...
XoXo

Alba

I forgot to say that, of course, Jacob would go if Bella told him so. If she really wanted him gone, he would leave. Maybe he would watch her from the distance just to see if she was allright. But he would stay away from her life.

Alba

I've always understood the side of Jacob you're seeing right now, Kaleb. In Eclipse, Jacob thought that Bella would be happier with him, so he insisted until she told him she would never be as happy with him as she was with Edward. And in Breaking Dawn, he sticks around because she's happy to see him around.

I always thought that Bella was the selfish one. God, she should have been brave and selfless a lot of times before and up to this chapter! She should have told him to back off a long time ago, if only for his sake! He's hurting even more around her. She should have sent him away. She would have been unhappy, but she should have done it for him.

She's selfish. That's why I can't really like her.

Greetings from Spain!

Alba

Feven

Well your birthday would be 10 days after mine! :p
He would leave. Jacob, no matter how much you want to believe, is not self-centered. Like Edward, he sometimes thinks he knows what's best for her but if she really meant it, he would leave. He loves Bella and would do anything for her, but alas, she can't let go of him (all that soul mate stuff in an alternate universe blahblah), and will continue to break his heart until a resolution occurs.

Mia C.

Kaleb, I completely get where you're coming from with the Jonas Brother references to one's birthday. Mine is Nov. 5, and last year, the lunatic fangirls in my school were all, "ZOMGG YOU HAVE [interchangable Jonas Brother]'S BIRTHDAYY!! U R SOOOO LUCKYYY!!!" Apparently one of them shares my birthday. Maybe I would like the reference more if it happened to be about someone with even a modicum of talent. As it is, however...

And Jake wouldn't leave even if Bella told him too. He would reason that she was delusional and deep down, she wanted him to stay.

xJacobfanx

May Birthday is in June which means ill b turning 16 in a few days which also means I'm one of the youngest people in my year which sucks!!!

I Also loved Jacobs blond joke to Rosalie. That's one of the reasons I love him, that he's funny (and brave)
I felt so bad for Jacob because he had to be around Bella and couldn't leave. Personally, I think that if Bella didn't want Jacob around any more, he would probably be on the run away in wolf form like he was in the beginning of the book.

CullenWannabe

I would like to think that if Bella asked him to leave & stay away that he would. But knowing what happens later & thinking about things & what others have said, I don't know if he would. (It's hard to explain Kaleb since you don't know what happens yet, but it will make sense a little later on.) He has other reasons than Bella just wanting him around (even though I don't think he understands them yet.)

While I was thinking about your question I thought of something I never really thought of before. I kind of hated Bella here for always wanting Jacob around (like you he really gets on my nerves with this immaturity and selfish, jerkish ways sometimes.) But mayabe part of the reason she wanted him around is because it seemed like before moving to Forks she never really had any close friends or best friend. She didn't keep in contact with anybody back in Arizona & she never really made good friends in Forks. Sure she got a long with Angela and I'd consider her a friend to Bella. But the person she got really close to & became good friends with and understands her pretty well is Jacob. So I think that might be part of Bella's problem and wanting him to stick around. (This is just my opinion of course & something I just thought of.)

Jessica

I think he would leave. Like you stated, Jacob isn't around during this time to try to win Bella back. He's there mostly because she needs him, and he wants to protect her. Now, it's true that he probably wouldn't LEAVE the Cullen property until the pregnancy was over, because even then, she would need his protection from the other pack, and he would care enough to stay for that period for her safety.

Another thing to remember, but not think too hard on, is that there are other things keeping Jacob near Bella.

And that's all I have to say about THAT.

Also, your birthday is the day after mine ^_^

I feel your pain about the time restrictions. I leave to go to Germany for three weeks tomorrow afternoon, and I'm like, 1/4 packed. Also, my host family is still unaware that I'm a vegetarian, so I'm kind of freaking out about that as well.

Rahhhh.
:/

Good luck, Kaleb :)

justin

i think he wouldn't leave, just not let bella see him. he's be all stalker-y, like he was when he ran around her house. i just wonder what edward would do in that sitch?

Pragya

I think he would stay away from her if she told him.......nd actually my DAD's bday is on the same day as yours sooooooooo..........just random u knw..........very short comment this time.

Monica

The next time someone mentions you sharing a birthday with one of the JoBros, just remember:
1. Your birthday is exactly a week after your book comes out!
2. Your birthday is 3 days after Bella's.

Jacob's actions will make a lot more sense in retrospect. You're probably not going to see it coming. I will be shocked if you do. But yes, it all makes sense at the end.

devz30

Yeah, I think he would stay away from her. If Bella really asked him to, then yeah. But she didn't. And she won't, for... personal reasons =)

Okay, I'm in a hurrry... got 2 go.

Megsie

oh and also, i feel sorry for you. sharing a birthday with nick jonas...ouch. haha random fans probably say that all the time. i can see how that would get annoying, especially if you don't really like them (like me. and i highly doubt a guy would...so i can just imagine how much more annoying that would be).

Megsie

If Bella told Jacob to leave (which she never would), he would probably try. And fail. Haha he loves her too much :)

Catherine

hey Kaleb...something's up with your quote marks lol

Blair11

There is a reason that he keeps coming back (like people above have said), so he might have left but would've eventually came back.

I need to show my mom that picture of your room, so she can see that i'm not the only one with a messy room.

Becca

hehe, i get the nick jonas thing ALL the time! we've got the same birthday. :)
love reading your blog

Capucine

I think he would have left, because he only wants Bella's happiness, and if it makes her happy... But I think he really would have suffered and made him unhappy. So Bella would have been unhappy too, and made him come back :) And they all finally be happy (;

LauraIS

u can't get back something that u never had...i know is not fair for jacob but this is the situation.jacob was by her side and helped her to live and to fix something that edward has brake inside her.and no,he wouldn't leave.he's the opposite of edward...

Anna_Loves_TWILIGHT

Ah, Kaleb. Your not knowing whats gonna happen is cracking me up. Right now, he can't leave her, and she can't tell him to leave, for reasons you will soon find out. But, if we are assuming Bella can and does tell Jacob to go away, I think he will leave her alone, but won't leave. He will stay around the Cullens' house to protect them and Bella. He just will avoid Bella. Then when he is positive she is out of danger, he will run away for good.

OMT, Kaleb! My birthday is September 9! that's 7 days before yours (and the day Bran Hambric comes out). the 16th is also the date Edward leaves Bella in New Moon. : ( sad....

haha "where hath all mine time gone?" i'm thinking the exact opposite. I want this year to be over with. cant wait for my school to get out.

Adios!!!!

Emily

Hi Kaleb! Yes, I think Jacob would have left if Bella really wanted him to. Although I think he's a tiny bit more selfish than Edward, he's still not one to deny Bella whatever she wants, as long as she is safe. I can't see him recovering very quickly from that kind rejection, though.

Michelle

omg kalebb your birthday is a day before mine!!

:DD

Julie

hath?

Paloma

"[...]only 3 months and 11 days until I turn that glorious age of 21 on September 16 (if I hear one more thing about sharing Nick Jonas’ birthday, I think I will randomly burst into flame)." lol my birthday is on September 19- just like Hermione Granger!

vanessa

I think Jacob would leave if Bella told him to, even though he would try not to because he knew that would hurt Bella. I think all this isn't just Jacob's fault, this love triangle. I think is everybody's: Edward left in New Moon and Bella fell in love with Jacob, then she can't stay away from either of them, and Jacob wants her too.

Kelsey

Sure, you don't have scorpians and goblins but you have plenty of gnomes. If Bella told Jacob to leave now he would probably stay because he is some what stubburn, plus, he might not believe her.

Katie

lol...I like your view on it. And Yeah, I think he would leave.

Answer

Nah. He'd stay away if it made her happy. Plus, I don't think he would try to get her back.

Him staying makes her happy though, so he's stuck.

Abby

I think Jacob would leave if Bella told him to, because he wants to do whats best for Bella, but also what makes her happy.
If she said "I want you to leave" he would assume that would make her happy and he would leave.

(The)Victoria(Poet)

I think he would just run around trying to protect her, that's all. And I don't think Bella would tell him to leave. Not Bella.

xtonks

Ah, because I know the ending.. no, he wouldn't stay away.

He has to be in her life, he just doesn't understand why yet. He wants to stay away, and if there wasn't something unknown to him holding him there, he would, but he simply can't. If he could, I for one think he would have given up long before this. I think he would have given up when he found out they were engaged, they kissed, and she chose Edward anyway. He can't even really pin point what it is about Bella that holds him there, so for her alone, he wouldn't stay and put up with it, but knowing that there's something else, he would have stuck around regardless. That's all I can say without spoiling.

cookies ! ! !

Hey kaleb i read ur blog all the time but this is my first time to comment . . Well after reading the books a number of times i came to realize that jacob would not leave even if bella told him flat out i dont love u , ur not my friend go away . . becuase there is something there holding on to jacob telling him not to leave her . . he might have left the house and never went back inside but he would still always be there .. he is tied to bella beyond logical reason . . i dont want to give to much away so im gonna stop there . . . i love how jacob keeps slamming rosalie with dumb blonde jokes . . . hilarious

p.s THAT PIC OF UR ROOM LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE MY ROOM EXCEPT I HAVE JUNK FOOD EVERY WHERE AND BOOKS SCATTERED ALL OVER THE FLOOR AND U KNOW IM A GIRL SO THERE ARE GIRL CLOTHES EVERYWHERE ..

P.P.S THE DOG IN THE SUNDRESS SO CUTE . .

Marie

i think if Bella tod him to leave he would, BBUUTT i think he would always come back and watch to see if shee was ok. i dont think he could leave her forever

Sakura

That picture of your room is not as bad as my room at the moment... The reason? It's exam time and usually, student's rooms are the cleanest during exam time (from all the procrastination that we do XD ) but mine is just plain messy. Notes, books, pens and bags everywhere along with my basket freshly washed clothes (thanks mom!)

Anyway, Jacob in a sun-dress??? ROFL! I'd like to see that someday XD.... You gotta love the 'relationship' that Jacob and Rosalie has, it's hilarious! Specially after the baby is born.... hmm... better shut up now... and oh! there's another reason why Bella is always happy to see Jacob beside from the obvious.

For your question, I think that he would leave if Bella told him to but only if he's sure that she's gonna be happy. It's quite evident that he was willing to step down as soon as he found out that Bella chose Edward. He only has qualms about Edward because he's a vampire and that he's (Edward) going to turn Bella.

Saphira C.

i think that even if she did ask him to leave, it wouldn't be likely that he would. he says he would, but on the inside, he knows that he can't live without her. he may run away for a week or two like he did in the beginning, but otherwise i think he'll stick around for her happiness.

Hazeena

I love your song choice.

his_singerr

I think Jacob would leave if Bella asked him to. Of course, if he thought she was just saying this for his benefit or some other reason other than for her sake then he would stay; he can see right through her when she lies. But yes, he would leave, despite great emotional pain. Jacob's awesome like that.

LittleIvy28

I should have said someone .....

spangiepantz

he would be heartbroken and depressed, but he would leave especially if it would make her "happy" cos he loves her so much =)
my whole room pretty much looks like that too. haha

LittleIvy28

I have no idea ..this love triangle is very confusing..... I hope he will find some eventually.
By the way nice picture..it looks exactly like my closet .hehe!

Hannah

That picture looks like my room. :D
I'm sure Stephenie's choice of words all gave us a good image of Jacob in a sun dress, but answering your question earler, i think jacob would back up. what is the point of loving her (and being around smelly vampires) while she doesnt love him back? there is no point, really.
boy, will you get a shock when you finish jacob's point of veiw. it all flows together and everyone is happy

Paige

That little doggy in a sundress picture was the cutest thing! It's probably a good thing you didn't photoshop Taylor in a dress... I probably would've used it for blackmail! LOL!
Anywho...
It's pretty obvious at this point in the series that Jacob wants to be there simply because Bella wants him there. I don't think he'd be there if Bella didn't want him. Especially with Rose around.... XD

Steph

Dang. I always forget to check. Ah well, I was playing with my niece and a puppy, so it was worth being late to the post.

You share a birthday with a Jonas? Tsk. What happened to you, Kaleb? You used to be cool. On the other hand, you're only 10 days away from my birthday, which does make you a little cooler.

I'm glad the year's almost half gone. Time is going too slowly. At this rate, my life is going to last forever. I'm going to lead the most boring existence of anyone, ever. Being a vampire forever would be better than being a human for another 60 to 70 years.

If Bella told him to leave, and really meant it, then he should leave. But who knows?

Steph

Yes, I'm aware that I commented over 24 hours ago, and it does seem weird that I'm back here, commenting again, but, really, I just don't care. I thought of something.

I really, completely, utterly loathe blonde jokes. They are one of my biggest annoyances. Seriously, why blondes? Why not just make some racist jokes? It's the same thing, really. Creating stereotypes of certain demographics, based entirely on their appearance.

Natty

Jacob would leave. He would internally die, and probably run, like, around the planet a couple times to blow off his sadness and anger (as a wolf), but he would still leave because he knows that would be what Bella wanted. However, I think he would eventually come back, all intentions of stealing her from Edward gone. He loves her too much to leave for good, but maybe he would only stay near, not talk to her or anything.

Rachel

He wud try to stay away but he wouldnt be able to and you'll seen soon enuf why he cant stay away from Bella. Thats all im sayin i dun wanna ruin the surprise cos i was truly gobsmacked wen i realised wa happened :O

midtwiclipsemoon

I think at this poit, yes Jacob would leave if that was what Bella wanted. He wouldnt want to leave but he would do it. I think that prior to the Marriage, like during Eclipse, Jacob most likely would not have left quietly if Bella told him to leave her alone. I think at that point Jacob would have thougt he was right to keep trying to force his company on Bella, because Jacob is kind of outspoken.

Rhiann

Hey! You have the same birthday as me! Cool! I'll be 17 this year :) I've been reading your twilight blogs for pretty much the whole time you've been doing, read every one. You reek of awesome! :D

Brogan

At this stage, if Jacob asked him to leave, he would. He is hurting deeply, and knows that he needs to start trying to get over her. Before now, though, he definately wouldn't have left, because although he knew he was fighting a lost cause he couldn't leave until he knew there was absolutely no hope.

Heather

My room looks like that! Lol. The joys of being a college student, indeed. I haven't cleaned since I was in high school. Bad situation.

This is why I grew to like Jacob in this book. He finally stopped trying his damnedest to steal Bella away. I think in Eclipse, he believed that what would make her happy was being with him, and she just didn't know it yet, therefore it was his job to enlighten her. But after he shattered half his body and Bella came to him saying she was staying with Edward no matter what, I think he finally realized that it's Edward who makes more happy and had the strength to let her go.

I think if Bella said stay away and it looked like she meant it, then he would. But I have a feeling he would stay close just to make sure she's safe.

Shelby Bailey

I know something cooler than sharing your birthday with nick jonas. I am also turning 21 this year and my birthday is September 17th....you were born one day before me. Pretty strange...it always trips me out to find people close to my day haha. Well Happy Early Birthday ;]

Elizabeth

OME- Kaleb, we have the same birthday!
Mexican Independence day, too, so I'm told~

(I'm also told that everyone shares their birthday with 8,999,999 people- at least one of mine is awesome!)

Anna_Loves_TWILIGHT

Mexican Independance Day is May 5th

ancha85

Sorry, but no. May 5th is Cinco de Mayo, which is the commemoration of the Battle of Puebla.
The 16th of September is Mexican Independence Day.
(I know 'cause I'm a Spanish teacher.)

Anna_Loves_TWILIGHT

guess my mom lied to me. thanks for letting me know : )

ancha85

She probably didn't lie, but actually thought it was. Many people think that mistakenly, because 5 de Mayo is what is celebrated so much in the U.S.
In fact, we celebrate it more here, than they do in Mexico. It's a good excuse to throw a party!

Niza

its so great to be born in Puebla! my favorite celebration is 5 de Mayo and its not the same as in the US.

ancha85

How cool that you were born in Puebla!
One of my teacher friends spend a Summer in school there and said it is beautiful. She could see Izi and Popo from her window.

I love to teach my students that leyenda. It is soo romantic.
It's something Edward would do for Bella, don't you think?

Claire

Oh yeah! I read that legend before. Of course, Edward would do that for Bella. Well, to answer Kaleb's question.. I think Jacob wouldn't completely leave Bella. What I mean is that well he would always love Bella, so emotionally he wouldn't leave, but he'd totally leave phisically.

ancha85

I agree, Claire.

Only thing is, I think Jake would TRY to totally physically leave, just be around protectively as a wolf or catch news of the Cullens through his brothers, but the minute Bella would be in trouble for her "danger magnet" thing, Jake would be able to stay away, he'd be right there.

And then them seeing each other again, would be hard, and he'd have to force himself to leave again.

Also, even if Bella were truly over the "love thing" with Jacob, I cannot see it in her for her to just brush him off. She would TRY to do it for his sake, but most likely Jake would see right through her (bad liar, remember) and wouldn't really totally leave.

ancha85

meant to say "WOULDN'T beable to stay away". Sorry.

Lauren C.

I think Jacob would have left (although everyone seems to be saying that) because it is what she wants. The end.
This was one of my favorite chapters in this book because, like you Kaleb, I always thought Jacob was just being selfish. I finally got to see that he only does the things he did because he really really cares for Bella. He may think about Bella in the chapters before this, the things he thinks about how if she would just care less about him, he could go away in this chapter shows (to me) that he will do whatever she wants him to. Sorry this is kind of long. It's late which means I can't word my thoughts as well as I usually can. Well, thats all, I promise.

ancha85

I am soo glad people are FINALLY trying to see the true side of Jacob Black.

He DOES put Bella's feelings and interests first.

It appears that he is being self-centered and a jerk at times, but he actually understands her better than she understands herself (and so does Edward at times, that is why he continues to tolerate Jacob in their lives).

It is true that he wants Bella for himself, what person in love doesn't want the person of their affection for themselves?
It is also true that when that person is choosing someone else over you, you can't help but obsess over them and dream about what "could be". This is especially true in our teen years/early twenties, and please remember that Jake is 17 (about).

He could get over her if she were out of his life. He know this. The rational side of him WANTS this. But he know, that he won't and can't do it as long as she needs him near her. He will even do things that he hates doing (like talking to her about "another baby") for Edward, if he thinks it has ANY chance (slim to none, he know) of working. He is starting to understand and feel compassion for Edward, too. As much as he wants to hate him, he can't. They are both working together for Bella's well-being.

This 3-sided love is what makes this Saga soo awesome. That's why all teenage girls want to be Bella, to have two such wonderful guys in their lives. How lucky she is.

There are soo many kinds of wonderful types of love in the Saga, (brotherly/sisterly, maternal, paternal, best friend) but these three are what puts the Twilight Saga over the top as one of the best books of all time. (the BEST, in my humble opinion).

And your right, Kaleb. Jacob just has to find someone else to love, so that him and Bella can be best friends again.
And Esme and Carlisle are beyond awesome.

Alba

Yeah! I agree with everything you said, and I'm really happy to see that a lot of people are trying to see the real Jacob Black too!

God, Kaleb, I love you. lol You make me so freaking happy whenever you say good things about Jacob! At the end, you'll understand and love the character. You'll see.

Greetings from Spain!

Alba

Lily

I think that if Bella really told Jacob that she didn't want him around anymore, didn't want him in her life, didn't care what happened to him that he would actually leave. What possible reason would he have for sticking around? He knows that she's not going to change her mind, and that she's going to break his heart again, so there's really no self-centered reason for him to stick around.

Autumn

If he were asked this as a hypothetical question, he would probably say yes. But he would know in his heart she could never bring herself to it. If she really did, he wouldn't have the guts. Happy very early birthday! Yours is actually the day after mine!

roses4beth

I think jake would leave and run as a wolf for a long time

Persephone Basilissa

If he could tell that she really meant it -- and you remember that in the previous book, he knew how she felt better than she did -- he would leave. It would be easier on him in the long run, too; and he knows it.

Shaddin

Are you reading the House of Night series by any chance? Your name is the name of one of the horses in it. I don't like the series much. It pales in comparison to the Twilight Saga.

Lizzie Hale

If Bella would ask him then yeah I think he'll leave, like mel said, to make her happy!!!

vanesa

yeah... i also think that he would leave if she tell him to... I BLAME BELLA....!!! hahaha...

Mel

I think Jake would leave if Bella asked. If he believed it would truly make her happy, he would go.

caroline

1st. whoop!

Kari

This is the first time I have ever posted a comment here. I usually don't post my opinions because I feel most people in some way or form have already voiced what I am thinking. I'm not even sure if I'm writing this in the right spot or not. I just want to finally say a few things about Jacob and of course, Bella too.

I completely agree with you and your frustration with Jacob. I have always felt a form of animosity towards him when it comes to his relationship with Bella. I too during this chapter started to realize that Jacob might not be as selfish as it has always seemed.

I started to get frustrated with Bella about why she just couldn't seem to let go, but as I read on I realized something that made perfect sense. I'm not going to say what it is to avoid spoilers, but it is something that I hope you search for in the future. I know many fans have made the connection, but I have noticed that it hasn't been mentioned a lot in some forums. I have learned through out the series that Stephenie always has her characters feel a certain way for a reason. This is no different.

Anyway, I am going to stop rambling now and I hope you have a relaxing summer. I know your birthday isn't until September, but happy early birthday. Don't drink too much. I know I was tempted, but I can honestly say that for my 21st, last year, I did not go overboard and that made it so much better.

Kari

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