Reading Breaking Dawn: Chapter 17 (What Do I Look Like? The Wizard Of Oz? You Need A Brain? You Need A Heart? Go Ahead. Take Mine. Take Everything I Have)

June 19th, 2009 at 5:45 pm by Kaleb Nation

The song for this chapter is Shape Of My Heart by Sting

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I am slowly becoming convinced that the above illustration is an accurate representation of how these chapters got to be named. I’m actually quite enjoying these long chapter titles, despite the fact that they span multiple lines across my screen and thus utterly ruin my site design. Since this long chapter title thing seems to be a quirk that isn’t disappearing anytime soon (at least until Jacob Black learns to control the length of his thoughts) I examined some other books, trying to find their longest chapter titles. The longest chapter title in THE GRAVEYARD BOOK by Neil Gaiman is the first, “How Nobody Came To The Graveyard”; in THE GOLDEN COMPASS by Philip Pullman, it is the last chapter “The Bridge To The Stars” (for those wondering, the longest chapter title I’ve written was “Sewey Wilomas Versus The Oncoming Train”). If there was a Longest Chapter Contest, Stephenie would surely have us all beat.

Edward has a wonderful variety of cars to choose from, and even though he’s probably mostly known by his Shiny Silver Volvo, the Aston Martin Vanquish is the one I’m most interested in. For those of you who don’t research much about the cars in this book, the Aston Martin Vanquish was the official car of the James Bond film Die Another Day, discontinued in 2007, and generally costs about $129,000. “BUT WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT THIS FRIVOLOUS INFORMATION,” I see many of you shouting. “EDWARD CULLEN DRIVES IT SO THAT MAKES IT TEH HAWTNESS.”

Aston Martin Vanquish: Making Normal Men 100x More Attractive In Seconds

Jacob had better not carry out the second part of his plan and crash this car, or he’s going to be in a bit of trouble trying to pay that off (you know, the whole, you break it, you buy it rule?). I’m sure it would also be a very interesting situation if Charlie happened to be patrolling that day, and caught Jacob going 200 MPH in Edward Cullen’s Aston Martin Vanquish.

CHARLIE, strolling up to window: Hello sir, you were going 200 in a 60 mile p–JACOB BLACK, WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?!

JACOB: Sorry Charlie. I can explain everything. Edward Cullen, mortal enemy of my werewolf people, gave me the keys to his $129,000 car so I could get away from the drama surrounding your daughter, who I still love despite her marrying a bloodsucker, and the painful birth of her vampire-slash-human baby, who is currently eating her from the inside out and forcing her to drink little cups of blood.

CHARLIE: Um. Can we back up to the the $129,000 car part?

I think that going on a soulmate-search is perhaps one of the best ideas that Jacob Black has had in a long time. If I was a werewolf, and I knew that there was some way to KNOW for sure who my true soulmate was, I would not be able to rest until I had crawled the world for this person. It is just insanity for him to stick around Bella, knowing that he will never imprint on her, and somewhere out there is someone for him — so much, that this ‘imprintee’ might even make him forget about Bella immediately. It’s like magic. As soon as he find her, all this pain will be gone.

However, as if to challenge what I just wrote, Jacob then says:

Magic wasn’t going to save me. I was just going to have to take the torture like a man. Suck it up.

Or perhaps Jacob, you just enjoy wallowing in your sorrows instead of sucking it up and going somewhere other than where Bella is. Whoops. I think a werewolf just ripped my head off.

I find it interesting how Edward was able to somehow find a way to keep his treaty with the werewolves and at the same time, find a way to save Bella’s life. Jacob is the true Alpha of the pack, so Edward doesn’t really have to ask Sam or the others about this. And when it comes to Bella’s life being at stake, it might end up being the only way for her to stay alive (as alive as she can be considered as a vampire, that is). But will Sam and the others really accept this? They don’t accept Jacob’s leadership, so even though he has the right, I have strong doubts that the other wolves will just give in and let him have it his way.

And oh, what a wonderful image to leave me with as I finish this chapter. A fountain of blood you say? Good thing I stopped eating snacks while reading Breaking Dawn.

QUESTION FOR THE COMMENTS: Regardless of what ACTUALLY happens in the rest of the book, if Jacob imprinted on another girl (for example, one of the mall girls) do you think he would really be able to leave Bella, or is his love for her too powerful even for imprinting?

——NOTES——

- My big trip to Forks, WA for Summer School In Forks is coming up! I leave on Wednesday, which means I will have a hard time getting to my computer, and posts will be less than usual. But I shall return with photos and cool stuff!

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Kristin

That cartoon is absolutely amazing. *ROTFL*

kris

lol ^^ the jacob titles are awesome! i enjoyed reading them as if i was actually reading the book!
and when jake imprints yes, he FINALLY leaves bella alone (i bet u know that now kaleb!) :P
and btw ashton martin is my fav twilight car too

Sydney

The V12 Vanquish? ***BEST CAR EVER***

Sydney

Hey kaleb!
So that's the car I've wanted since Last summer.
But last time I checked it was $330,000.... Guess money is bad right now. Which is good for me, 'cause I'm 14 and already have over $500 saved up for that car.... :D
Anyways, thought I'd mention that I've met taylor, and got to hug him. He smells VERY NICE! And really is utterly warm. I think he plays the part great! He is so nice.

shemus

before i got to this part, i realized the question you are asking. what if? could/would/should? as i sat and thought about it (for about two seconds before i jumped into the next chapter:P), i suddenly realized the only solution that made sense. and (NOT that i consider myself a brain, or smarter then stephenie meyer, or any other author!) i realized there was only one solution that would make everybody a winner, and make the most sense.. well, the most sense in the storyline of a book like this:) and, as it turned out, i was right in my guess.. and it did and does make the best of this currently awkward situation.

so keep reading kaleb nation.. trust me. when you get to the things that finally answer your question, you will realize that it was the only way for it to work out and have everybody happy in the end.

Jackie

I love the conversation you made up for between Charlie and Jacob. That never crossed my mind but now that I think about it. It would have been cool to see what would happen. Thanks for the information on the car. It’s a little weird. I use to love cars when I was small like toy cars (and I’m a girl, I know weird) I guess my dad kind of influenced me and then as I grew older I wasn’t so interested. But after reading Twilight, I know more about cars so it’s cool. Haha, I totally agree with you statement “The Aston Martin Vanquish: Making Normal Men 100x More Attractive In Seconds” LOL!
Yes I do believe that Jacob would be able to leave Bella. Imprinting is more powerful than Jacob’s love for Bella. We can kind of see that from Sam, Emily and Leah and from all the information provided to us about imprinting. Sam loves Leah but when he imprinted on Emily. He fell in love with her. It was like “magic”. He still loves Leah in a way. But it won’t be the same love as the love he has now for Emily. In saying this, Jacob would still love Bella. But it wouldn’t be as strong as his love for his imprintee. I guess imprinting has its pros and cons.

Clara

I think that Lizzie girl (or whatever the girls name was that was talking to Jacob at the park) would be perfect for him and steph should have had him imprint on her instead of what really happened.

Feven

Jacob's Imprintee > Bella (THANK GOODNESS)

I love Jacob's chapter titles; they always make me laugh. :D

& Kaleb.. the "Or perhaps Jacob, you just enjoy wallowing in your sorrows instead of sucking it up and going somewhere other than where Bella is.." was incredibly harsh. You know just as well as I do that you can't break off love that easily, and that Bella is just as much (if not more) at fault with how much Jacob hurts. He was perfectly fine with letting her go before all this supernatural stuff happened too.. remember? It's in S.Meyer's extras
http://www.stepheniemeyer.com/pdf/nm_extras_jac...

can't wait for the next chapter. :)

Kayla

I love the aston martin vanquish.

Nidhi M.

I think he would. While he certainly loves her, I think that imprinting would definitly change things. after all, it is "like magic".

As for the long chapter titles, you'll notice that they're only in Jacob's portion of the book. I think it just fits his personality.

YetAnotherTwilightFan

Epic post! I think this just might be my Favorite post of yours Kaleb! I LOVED it!

My Favorite parts are:
"I am slowly becoming convinced that the above illustration is an accurate representation of how these chapters got to be named. I’m actually quite enjoying these long chapter titles, despite the fact that they span multiple lines across my screen and thus utterly ruin my site design.

Edward has a wonderful variety of cars to choose from, and even though he’s probably mostly known by his Shiny Silver Volvo, the Aston Martin Vanquish is the one I’m most interested in. For those of you who don’t research much about the cars in this book, the Aston Martin Vanquish was the official car of the James Bond film Die Another Day, discontinued in 2007, and generally costs about $129,000. “BUT WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT THIS FRIVOLOUS INFORMATION,” I see many of you shouting. “EDWARD CULLEN DRIVES IT SO THAT MAKES IT TEH HAWTNESS.”

Aston Martin Vanquish: Making Normal Men 100x More Attractive In Seconds

Jacob had better not carry out the second part of his plan and crash this car, or he’s going to be in a bit of trouble trying to pay that off (you know, the whole, you break it, you buy it rule?). I’m sure it would also be a very interesting situation if Charlie happened to be patrolling that day, and caught Jacob going 200 MPH in Edward Cullen’s Aston Martin Vanquish.
CHARLIE, strolling up to window: Hello sir, you were going 200 in a 60 mile p–JACOB BLACK, WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?!
JACOB: Sorry Charlie. I can explain everything. Edward Cullen, mortal enemy of my werewolf people, gave me the keys to his $129,000 car so I could get away from the drama surrounding your daughter, who I still love despite her marrying a bloodsucker, and the painful birth of her vampire-slash-human baby, who is currently eating her from the inside out and forcing her to drink little cups of blood.
CHARLIE: Um. Can we back up to the the $129,000 car part?"

Hilarious I tell you!
Epic!

Alexi

Hahaha at this post. I love the Meyer/Rowling comic. My 2 fave authors and IMO the best in the world!! :) And also, this post was probably the funniest one I've read since finding this site while you were in the middle of New Moon.

As for your question, we've all seen the strength of imprinting. It's majorly strong--just look at Sam and Emily. He used to love Leah, and when Emily showed up, that disappeared. Sad, but it's true. And Quil is so dedicated to Claire, any love he might have had (and we don't know if there ever was any) is totally gone now, replaced by his love for her. It doesn't change just for Jake. He'd love anyone he imprinted on more than Bella--it's just that strong.

UGH, this is so HARD!!! I can barely contain myself from telling you the rest of the book, because your questions-for-the-comments hit so close to it all, and it's so HARD talking about it when you don't know......but of course, I won't tell you. I just can't wait for you to get to the part we all are waiting for!! And I know my mysteriousness on the subject may intrigue you, but don't go searching for the answer!! Believe me, you'll be glad you waited for it when you get there!! :)

Heather

I know, even though I felt bad for Jacob (and was exceedingly more happy that Edward and Bella were getting back on lovey dovey terms again) I was like...YOU BETTER NOT CRASH THAT VANQUISH!

"Or perhaps Jacob, you just enjoy wallowing in your sorrows instead of sucking it up and going somewhere other than where Bella is." *nodnod*

It's a good thing you stopped eating snacks. Breaking Dawn is not the book to have munchies with. Don't worry, the next chapter is worse.

I don't know if he would exactly leave Bella, but I think he could look on the situation with a more indifferent light. I doubt he would frolic through the daisies with his new soul mate and never have a thought towards Bella again. After all, Sam still feels insanely guilty about Leah.

babybott330

I believe I am with the majority of the comments. I think that if he had imprinted on Mall Girl, he would still have a very close bond with Bella, but that it would have switched to a bond of pure friendship. Mall Girl would also be satisfied, because he would be so completely devoted to her that I doubt it would even occur to her that she should be jealous (gasp) of Bella. Edward could finally be at peace, because inside Jake's mind he would see that Jake is truly in love with Mall Girl and is no longer a threat to him. Bella would also be happy because I truly believe she means what she says in wishing that Jake can find all the love and happiness she shares with Edward.
I do not agree with the comments that she would dissolve into a huge, jealous rage. I think the reason she is so stuck on Jacob is because he won't let her go of her. She hates to see him suffering, and she struggles with that now because she knows she is the cause of all the suffering. Even though Jacob has let her off the hook, stopped "ripping her in half," it seems that she cannot manage to do the same.
I also agree with a few comments I read about what a huge moment it was that Edward shared in that horrible pain Jacob was feeling and offered him the chance to get away. You know how Stephenie says that she doesn't explore options until there is a need for them? I think that Edward giving Jacob the keys to the Aston Martin was the only choice, because he would have wrecked the Volvo. I have always been confused by the girl who seemed certain that he had stolen the car. I mean, he's matured a lot over the last year, in all departments. Why is that he looks like some kind of criminal in this expensive car? Is there some reason that (teenage looking) Edward should not elicit the same response? I've always made more out of Lizzie than probably should have been.
Kaleb, I'm surprised after your previous observation that Leah and Jacob would become at the very least, close friends, you didn't mention that she had went to all the trouble to throw herself into the vampire's den to fight with Bella over the way that she has been treating Jacob. I think that moment is when I began to question their relationship and what level it may reach.
Also, I have no idea how you managed the restraint to stop reading at the end of this chapter. I think I turned the page so fast I got a paper cut. (Then Jasper tried to attack me, but luckily, Edward was there to save the day. Haha.)

Nicole

Yes....without revealing any spoilers....no matter who Jacob imprints on his feelings for Bella would only be platonic afterward because it is that strong. Remember how he explained it.....its like gravity moves and its only that person holding you there. Sam and Leah were madly in love until he met Emily and imprinted on her which made his feelings for Leah go away. It is that powerful....beyond true love.

Shannon S.

Fate works in mysterious ways. There is a reason why Jacob can't just leave Bella alone.

I don't want to spoil it but you're gonna find out really soon anyway so........yeah.

Jake imprints BECAUSE OF BELLA.

Sorry. -_-'

Mylles

I know how hard it is not to spill the beans it just makes everything make so much SENSE!!

wesrider

personally i think that 'imprinting' is what bella and edward did - just not in an obvious way. bella knows that being with edward will change her life completely and she'd be better off with jake, but she just can't do it!!!

i like the chapter titles - it differentiates bella's more focussed mind from Jake's scatterbrained approach to the whole situation that occurs in BD. it's a very smart move from Stephanie - big literary ups!!

i think 'mall girl' would take jake away from bella (as pointed out by everyone else - imprinting took Sam away from Leah) and i think he'd be relived to have a distraction (of sorts) from his crazy mixed up thoughts. As long as 'mall girl' wasnt a total bee-arch then I think Bella might even like her (although she'd probably be jealous) as she would make Jake happy.

Keep reading Kaleb and dont let anyone spoil the ending for you (if they haven't already)

Krystol

So... I have to admit that I gagged twice in BD. Once with the vomiting a fountain of blood and once more during the next chapter. Yay! You have something to look forward to, Kaleb.

Jaclyn.

Ugh. I loved Breaking Dawn. Really. It was my second favorite in the series. But I always got really frustrated. Bella, Jacob, and Edward all have very defined personalities. There is nothing we can do about it. So when they show an emotion, we can't really do anything about it, even if there were a thousand better ways to react. So no matter what, we are stuck with them.
And as for your question... no, his love for Bella wouldn't last. That's all I can say, because otherwise I'll ruin the ending and then everyone will hate me. So, Kaleb, you seriously need to start reading faster. Seriously. Because I'm going to lose my mind!!!
Good luck, and enjoy the next chapter.
PS
What happened to all of the TwilightGuy Reports and stuff? Those were awesome and we haven't had one in forever!

Paula Graciano

Just for the record: great analysis, great post, as usual!!
I think this is the saddest moment in all the saga! Can we really conceive how devastated Jake must be right now? And how difficult it must be for Edward to share this immense sorrow plus endure his own?
This is definitely the chapter I like the most!!!!!!! (despite all the sugar-coated moments in Brazil and all the vampiric endless sex)
Why? Well, let's just say I can totally relate to Jacob's search + I also know what it is like to be the wizard of oz.
And I totally agree with you: if I knew there was a way to know for sure who my soulmate is I would never stop until I had swept every single inch of this planet. Especially because malls and parks haven't been effective so far.

Sakura

HAHAHAHA.... Maybe they did... The long chapter tittles are not gonna last long though. Charlie stopping Jacob and him spilling the truth about the mythical place of Forks, WA? OHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO.... (eah that's all I'm going to say about that....)

About Jacob searching for his 'imprintee' I'm guessing that he didn't do that before because imprinting was considered to be rare in the pack so he didn't think it was possible for him to be able to imprint (until most of the pack started imprinting XD ). If he imprinted on one of the girls at the mall, I'd say he'd be able to leave Bella. We've seen that with the Sam, Emily, Leah love triangle. I have a feeling that he'd finally accept Edward as Bella's husband and he'll be (grudgingly) happy for her.

Yeah, Jacob is the real Alpha though most of the pack is loyal to Sam, so if he gives his blessing it is not really breaking the treaty. Besides, even Sam was considering letting Bella be turned at the start of the book, before all this crazy stuff with the baby started. The real problem here that Sam's pack is considering as a threat is the baby rather than Bella turning into a vampire (if my memory and logic serves me right XD )

Ah the gore fest that started the split in the fandom... Have fun.... ROFL.... More rollercoaster of emotions and events coming your way....

Alexandria

Of cours it would seprate Jacob from Bella. He wouldn't have to worry about Bella because the other girl would be his main focus. He really wouldn't have to or want to see Bella again because he wouldn't have the urge to take care of her.

MeyaRose

It wouldn't be imprinting if he didn't leave Bella for the other girl. Look at what happened to Sam. He LOVED Leah, but that darn mythical stuff got in the way and he broke Leah's heart and messed up Emily's face. That's not to say Jake wouldn't still love Bella, he just wouldn't be as drawn to her as he is now...

Most fans knew about Edward's Aston Martin Vanquish from the prom outtake on SM's website, that she posted before even New Moon was out. And we all knew it was a James Bond car, so, this isn't exactly news...

Madeleine

Jacob would DEFINITELY get over Bella in the event of imprinting on someone else Imprinting completely erases previous romances, as shown in Sam's and Leah's case. Jacob would still have feelings for bella because of what he felt for her before, but they would be feelings of friendly affection, not romantic love. Bella would no longer remain a romantic option in his mind.

Mylles

He would move on. I know it.

Jacqueline

Jacob will never forget about Bella. First loves are hard to forget. But he will be able to leave her. Sam loved Leah and I do believe he loved her just as much as Jacob loves Bella. However Sam imprinted on Emily and therefore he was destined to love her more. She was his chosen soulmate and in return he left Leah heartbroken. So Sam probably feels a lot of guilt. The difference is Bella rejected Jacob as the soulmate and wanted him to be her best friend. Bella chose Edward. So if Jacob were to imprint on let's say Jessica Stanley (haha! that'd be interesting) he'd love her and then leave Mike heartbroken instead of Bella. hmmm...So I just now pictured that example and in my daydreams of Jessica being an imprintee I saw Mike wearing a Team Edward shirt. all bizarre humor aside. The rejection from Bella probably would help him more if he were to imprint. The bad feelings won't increase because Bella and him were a couple and he won't end up alone.

Jacqueline

okay that last sentence was kind of weird. I mean the wouldn't feel guilty because Bella and him weren't a couple. Gotta love when you write something weird.

becky

You're underestimating the Imprinting. I really can't say much more than that without probably giving something away though.
But basically, if Jake were to Imprint that would overrule his love for Bella. He'd still be friends with her, but he wouldn't be interesting in her romantically at all because he'd have his imprintee. Its sort of like comparing Edward and Tanya's relationship to Edward and Bella. Except not really cause Tanya wanted Edward and not the other way around. But kind of. Actually, nevermind lol.

inzaratha

Did you ever see the movie "Crazy People" when the crazy dude decides to put truth in advertising and say why guys really want Porshes etc ( to get girls ).
This is SO much like my brother, he is always buying the most expensive cars. In fact I have ridden in a bunch of the cars and ones like them in the book because my older brother bought them so he could get young tall skinny hawt chicks. It makes me laugh.

inzaratha

I love your post here Kaleb - brilliant.

Kaleb - Check out the super long chapter titles in Steven Brust's Phoenix Guards or in Alexander Dumas books ( such as in the Three Musketeers etc ) they are great, some of my very favorites actually. When I read the Phoenix Guards with long chapters titles like that about 15 years ago I decided to read Dumas who he said was one of his inspirations and loved those too.

http://www.amazon.com/Phoenix-Guards-Steven-Bru...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandre_Dumas,_p...

Nessiegirl96

Btw, Princess Potter, If you count the letters, "The Journey From Platform Nine and Three Quarters" beats "The Noble and Most Ancient House of Black", 42 letters to only 34! Sorry, I suffer from Potter OCD.

Natty

Potter OCD! Me too!!

Nessiegirl96

Kaleb. These questions are going to kill me. All will be made clear by the end of the book. I hope my non-descriptive reply isn't too much of a spoiler.

I disagree with Jennifer, though. Jacob doesn't have to stop loving Bella. He just will know they aren't meant to be together like he thought before. Well, maybe he'll think (Jacob's relationship - random girl) + (Bella's relationship - Edward) = Jacob and Bella forever, but he will know there's just someone who is literally better for him in several ways.

Sam will always love Leah. He'll just know they aren't meant to be together anymore, and because he is still in love with her, will always feel so horrible about it.

tina

I think imprinting overrides all previous attractions - even if there are still feelings. Case in point - Sam and Leah. He still loves her and feels bad, but him imprint is his life. It's one of those freaky werewolf things.

So, Kaleb, put your seatbelt on...here it goes!! I'm really interested to see what you'll think after the next chapter!!

Katie

I think he loves Bella as a friend, no matter what. He won't want to leave her just because he fell in love. He would stay by her side as a friend, I think, because he's a dog. dog's are loyal. (SORRY Jake fans, I just HAD to put that in there. he IS a loyal person though....) He wouldn't just be like, 'hey! now that I'm in love I'll totally forget that my best-friend-soon-to-be-mortal-enemy is in pain and dying! i can just go live a happy life with someone new and go back to hating vampires and mixing the werewolf groups back together so we all have to listen to SAM! And go KILL BELLA CUZ HE SAYS SO!' or something like that. Jacob's in love with her, but he also loves her. They're best friends. He wouldn't let her get killed or totally forget her like that.

Jennifer

I loved the long chapter titles, they wre hilarious! And I think they are meant to give us more insight into Jacob's personality and the way he thinks. Anyway, no matter who Jacob imprints on he will definitely lose this obsession/love for Bella once it happens. It is a very strong magic. Stephenie has already given us a powerful example with the Sam/Leah/Emily triangle, it overrides previous feelings. AND thank goodness, because in this case instead of creating a 'love triangle' it could finally end one!

Anna

In answer to your question- HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You shall see. You shall see.

Princess Potter

LOL! That chapter title discussion between Jo and Stephenie is soooooo funny! Fyi, Edward's Vanquish is black. I know, I have Twilight OCD! And you forgot the longest chapter title in Harry Potter, it's a tie between "The Journey From Platform Nine and Three Quarters" and "The Noble and Most Ancient House of Black"

alisa

I can see why Jacob might want to get over bella, i mean she is married to the man he hates and is giving birth to that mans child wich happens to be killing her. Plus, Edward did hate the child as much as Jacob, but now loves it, wich would feal kind of like betrayal to Jacob. I dont know why he didnt get out of there sooner. Is it because he cant stand not knowing if she dies or not? Or does he simply want to kill the baby with his own hands, so he waits? Or is it something more? What ever the reson, going to find his soulmate was a great idea, though he just went to the park. Couldnt he have gone some where more populated? Like the airport? There is tons of people there and they all come from places hes never been, so more luck finding his soulmate there.

mrsjonforeman

My absolute favorite chapter name!! I remember buying BD [almost a year ago] and looking at the table of contents, wondering why it stopped at 7. When I made it there and started reading Jacob's chapter titles, I'm like Oh THAT'S why! They sort of helped me keep reading, as I was a bit miffed that JACOB had to narrate. [i would day something like stupid mutt, but the picture of Taylor Lautner on the side of the page is staring at me]

In my writing, the longest one I've used is... *checks for cpu file* "You Know There's Something up When Your Conjoined Twin Brothers Have More Friends than Your Boyfriend, Who, Amazingly, Hasn't Been Beaten Up By Your Big Brother OR A Week in the Life of Kelly Woodson, Professional Suck-up" wow LOLOLOLOL

(The)Victoria(Poet)

Oh, yes, he would be just a best friend to her, nothing else, if he imprinted to a normal, or NOT normal (sounds weird) girl.

Paige

ha ha! As much as I can't stand Jacob, getting into his mind is certainly.... interesting. I'm not really sure if Jacob would ever be able to fully get over Bella. I think he's pretty much accepted the fact she's with Edward and will never love Jacob that way. Honestly, I don't think it's really healthy for Bella OR Jacob for them to remain friends. Too much pain on both parts. But Bella still wants him around for some reason.

vjm

he would still love her but in the right way like a family member

Rachel

OMG its sooooo impossible to answer ur question bcos i kno wats gonna happen ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i cannot w8 4 u 2 read it i fink its the next chapter. . . . .

d A n i

If Jacob wanted to he could've easily forgotten about Bella. It seems to me like Jake's justnot used to rejection and that's why he keeps going for Bella. Jacob just needed to find something else to do with his time. I think Bella was his "thing to do" when you have nothing to think about, talk about. I don't believe that Jacob could truly be inlove with Bella to the point where she causes him too much pain because he's only ever known her as his friend. Jake's just confused by all the love going on around him and I think he just wants to feel apart of it. He's at that age where he's trying to find his place in the world.

xtonks

Is this your answer as if you don't know what happened or did you really miss one of the biggest points in the book?

I'm not asking that to be an #@#$%, I'm asking seriously because I've found that A LOT of people missed it. Mostly people who don't like him, I guess because if you don't like someone you don't care as much about the details of them. (Which is reasonable, but in this case, a crucial thing to miss.)

d A n i

I don't think I missed anything at all. Just because it's Jacob who's feeling all that he's feeling, that doesn't imply that he actually knows the exact trigger. True, I don't like Jacob, but that doesn't make me biased while reading from his point-of-view, if anything I was more attentive because I was indeed curious as to the inner workings of his mind.

ps. No offence taken. =)

xtonks

Hm, well, I'm just confused by what you said then, because..

He essentially you-know-what-ed on her, because of you-know-who. It was the reason for everything o.o since day 1. He for sure has no idea what exactly it is that keeps him there, and it's one of the many things I pity him for, but once he knows, it explains everything. It wasn't just immature rambling and hard headedness. There was nothing he could do to stop how he felt, and it was genuinely impossible for him to stay away from her or give up. I seriously only asked because I've explained the point to so many people who just missed (or simply didn't process) the 3-4 lines that were such a simple answer to all the madness with him. One of which was along the lines of him saying to Bella (this isn't perfect, too lazy to whip my book out for this) 'Don't you see? We can be like family now, just like you wanted. It's the way we were always meant to be, since the very beginning.' I also try to make sure people know I'm not being offensive because I'm never meaning to be, but am accused of it a lot, lol. I missed that when I read it at first, and then my mind got working and I was like 'OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH' haha (I need to stop coming on here at ungodly hours, too, I get the feeling that I don't make much sense when I do.)

(I really hope Kaleb doesn't read this comment because if so I'm sure he could figure this out if he wanted to. If so, sorry Kaleb :()

d A n i

It's ok. I understand what you mean. I understand your point. I'm just really stubborn and argumentative, I get that response from people alot too, lol, even when I'm not trying to be bitchy. =(

FictionsMyReality

I think Jacob would have an easier time "leaving" Bella for his imprintee but he wouldn't quit loving her so to speak. I think he would come to realize that he was just overly infatuated with her, but he'd love her like a best friend all the same

Betelgeuse

I just have to say that I simply loved Jacobs viewpoint and the long chapter titles are actually a big part why I simply loved it. When it was over and we got Bella back I really mist him very much. But at the beginning when his point of view just started I actually entertained the thought of skipping it entirely.

And yeah, I totally understand about not wanting to eat anything. At this point I was just shaking like a leaf at the dinner table not able to put something in my mouth. Oh, the horror! But that actually is not the best part of horrors in my opinion.

I totally agree with xtonks.
But if I would want to answer the question... I just don’t get how one person could leave their best friend practically laying on a death bed. Imprinting and imretee or not. What if he really found his true love right there? So, you ask for a number and then go watch your friend die and tell Edward that he will just have to go to Voltury again. Don’t forget to say hi to Markus!

xtonks

Oooh, it's just so complicated to answer without giving things away.

The answer IS everything. It's Jacob's entire role in the Saga. It is the love triangle, and it's just an impossible question to answer.

Jacob would, and will always be her friend. Imprint or not. It's what he's meant to be. What he was ALWAYS meant to be. Just given the situation and what I know happens, there is no right way to answer it; because if he imprinted on some random girl out there (which I wish he had) the..

See, just can't do it without spoiling, lol. This kills me. Kaleb needs to hurry up and keep reading so it can all just be out in the open and make sense, haha.

Jake was desperate though when he ran off, and being typical, selfish Jacob. In the same sense, though, doesn't he deserve a turn? Bella held him there, even though it was killing him. She was very selfish for such a selfless character, and Jake at least makes it plain who and what he is. We know he's a selfish, manipulative, hot-headed, conflicted jerk that deep down has a big heart but sometimes is just far too immature and self-centered to do the right thing at the right time. Some of us love and adore him for it, others hate him for it, that's all a matter of opinion, but that's just who he is, and at least it's not sugar coated. He needed to forget her for his own sanity, because he still can't quite grasp what it is that keeps him coming back to her. If he had by chance just found his imprint, I think he would have gone back and been there for her like a true friend. (Saying this last part as if I don't know the ending. Sorry if this comment is jibberish, 4:30am, just up because my daughter threw up 3 times and now I can't sleep lol)

Goldielocks

he would love the new girl unconitionally, but i think his heart might split a little bit like bellas did. the girl would take over his thoughts and i think he woulld eventually be able to face bella as a friend. why not? they have forever when bella becomes a vampire

Julie

Good luck reading the next chapter in the book Kaleb. If your afraid of blood like I am ( it's not funny don't laugh ), you might have a hard time reading. To not give it away I'll just mention that there is some more description on Bella vomiting. ew

xtonks

Ahhh, FFS Kaleb, stop asking impossible questions!

I think, if what happens and is happening, never happened, yes, imprinting would wipe it clean.
Buttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt.. it's all a tangled web, and once it makes sense, you'll realize suggesting otherwise completely cancels out the point in this question lol.

This chapter title is my favorite, though.

beckysue

The next chapter is my favorite!! I can't wait!

Shelby

Your captions are hilarious!!! Love it!!! Keep reading, I'm sure you'll see how it gets better.

Wendilynn

your captions are hilarious as usual. My 16 year old son cracked up over the caption on the car. Too priceless.

I'm not going to give my opinion on this particular question because it would spoil what's coming. Considering what you get queasy over, I"m looking forward to see how you react to what happens when the baby is born and the following results.

Autumn

I so want that car... Anywho, I think that Jake will always love Bella, but if he really did imprint I think this imprintee would still play a big role in his life.

Heather E

as you may know (seeing i comment on almost every post) i never read the previous comments, so sorry if i repeat.
anyway, i think that if Jacob were to imprint on another girl, he feelings for Bella would disappear. He wouldn't be torn up inside over loving her--but not being able to have her--because the imprinting would make him head over heels for that lucky, lucky girl. I mean, Jacob would still love Bella in a BFF way, but not in a romantic way.

marko

ummm just keep reading, you'll figure it out :)

RosalieC

Forgot to talk about the titles!! Anyhoo I think it is great not only because you are seeing a difference between him and Bella but also because of two things (the second one is better but kinda related to the first one)
Firstly! The titles are a mini summary of his feelings for that chapter.
Secondly! They are further getting into his mind. He may not always say or show or think for that matter what he is feeling but the titles will tell you.
And Thirdly! (ok I lied three things) They are good for a laugh. Until you read the rest of the chapter and see how sad it is.

This chapter was one of my least favorites maybe in the entire series. I like that we finally got a reaction that made a lot of sense out of Jake but it made me cry. Then the whole concept of it was sad. He was so desperate to imprint and get away from the feelings he was having about Bella and Edward and the baby that was went to a park to try and find his imprintee. The thing is its not likely and also how would that work? If he did imprint in the park, does he just go up to the girl and say "Hey. I'm a werewolf and you are my soul mate." I mean that's not creepy at all. And he can't just give her his phone number cause she might not call. IDK haha

Vitaani

I think Jake would be able not to leave her (they'd still be really good friends), but to stop thinking of her in a romantic way. I would compare it to Sam-Leah-Emily.

Leslie

I love the chapter titles... They really let you into Jacob's mind, I think. He's not as direct and to the point as Bella, whose books only have 1 word chapter titles. It's a neat change.

Anyway, I would say Jake would absolutely without a second thought move on if he imprinted on someone other than Bella. The fact is, if he was going to imprint on Bella, he would have the first time he saw her after becoming a werewolf. Since he didn't then, he never will. And since he hasn't imprinted on anyone else, he's still holding on, hoping for Bella even though he can't have her. You always want what you can't have, it seems. Anyway, imprinting is a powerful thing. It took Sam away from Leah, even though he really loved her, and still does. But when he imprinted on Emily, it was as Jake described - "gravity moves." It was no longer gravity that held him to the earth, it was Emily. And no matter how much he loved Leah - someone he was actually with - and no matter that he still loves Leah, he could not be with anyone other than Emily. It would be the same for Jake. If he imprinted on someone, that would be it. He would always feel affection for Bella, but he would have to be with the girl he imprinted on or he would never be happy. Even if Bella by some fluke said she did want him. Jake could not be with her. And as for whomever he imprinted on - she would have more of a choice than Jake, but it is again as Jake said - why wouldn't she choose him? He would be her other half, and her perfect match. She would never be as happy with anyone as she would with him.

I really used to see imprinting as a relatively negative thing, seeing as the "imprinter" has no choice in the matter, but I really don't see it so much that way anymore. Because even if the imprinter has no real choice, he's still happy. Maybe something negative happens in the process, but in the end, he's not happy with anyone other than the imprintee either. I don't know... Maybe I just accept it now more than I did.

To be honest, I found myself hoping that Jake would imprint as I was reading. He is probably the most unhappy he as ever been in his life as he watches the girl he loves with his mortal enemy, pregnant with his half vampire, half human child that is slowly killing her. He'd have a little relief if he imprinted. Yes, he'd still see Bella as a friend and it would still be hard for him to see all of this, but not as bad because he wouldn't be IN love anymore - he'd just love her as a friend. That's how I saw it anyway. :)

kim

jake would be able to walk away from bella in a heart beat if he imprinted on 'a mall girl'...he would be perfectly happy with exchanging christmas cards once a year...bella on the other hand would miss him terribly BUT i think she would be fine because she got her happy ending...ish (now she's beinge eaten by her own baby) and jake would have his so they would both be happy....

Night_Swimming

You completely underestimate the power of imprinting to even doubt whether it would separate Jacob from Bella. Of course he'd always remember their friendship and close bond, but the broken heart would be immediately replaced. Think of the power that Quil's and Sam's imprinting had against all reason and logic.

(And I agree--Jacob just likes to wallow. Otherwise he'd hunt down the magic until he found it.)

ancha85

No he's not wallowing. He just realizes that his soulmate could be anyone in the World, and his imprinting is not something he can force.
According to the legends, some of the wolves NEVER imprint. In fact, they thought it was a pretty rare thing!

RosalieC

His imprintee is closer than he thinks!! HAHAHA I'm cryptical and mystical!!

Also I think he would just think of Bella as a friend. He would love her but not be in love with her! You can sorta see that with Sam and Leah. At times you can tell that he still loves Leah just not the same way he did before Emily!

ancha85

Exactly!

Alba

Kaleb, I know you must be a little tired of me defending Jacob, but... I'm a bit disappointed you didn't say anything about the amount of pain Jacob feels in this chapter.

"I don't have anything left"

Jacob has given everything he has for Bella, and even for Edward. Edward knows it:

"I know how much you have given"

I expected you to say something about it... Not just about the expensive car, the long titles, etc. Well, you said something... You said he was kind of a masochist. Ugh... Do you really think he's going to find his perfect girl, his soulmate, just because he wants to? Those kind of things happen. You can't go look for them. What do you expect him to do? What would YOU do?

About your question, he would love his imprintee, not Bella. That's what happens when you imprint.

ancha85

I know, Alba.
I feel sooo sad for Jacob in this part of the book. For Edward, too. They are both actually starting to feel compassion and a kinship with each other, because they are both going through the pain of losing Bella.

Thank you for defending Jake all the time. I try to defend him everytime I can, too.
It hurts me when people say ugly things about him
Wolfgirls Rock!

xtonks

Ah, I say ugly things about him constantly, but I adore him to no end. It's sad and nerdy, but I truly love Jacob Black as a character, flaws and all. I point out his bad traits as well as the good because I feel like if you're going to support something, you need to support all of it, and he is a very complex character, with so many positives and negatives. I wouldn't be surprised if anyone thought I was anti-Jake, though, from the way I talk about him sometimes. He was the Saga for me, though. Without him, I would have stopped reading half-way through New Moon. I don't get how some people say they hate him and skipped his POV in Breaking Dawn! -.-'

ancha85

Nothin' sad and nerdy about it because Jacob Black ROCKS!!
He has all of the flaws of being a 17 year old boy, but has sooo many redeeming and lovable qualities to make up for them!
If I was sixteen still, he would be the perfect guy for me! (sigh...)

Mandi

I think if Jacob imprinted, he would still be Bella's friend. He would only hang around in that way.

Kougie

I love the long titles!
I was sad when they go back to one or two words. -_-
Another thing I noticed about Jacob's chapters is that he doesn't have a Table of Contents!
This also made me sad. I want to see all of his chapter titles on one page.

On an unrelated note, you should put the 3rd pic that is on this page as your author photo!
That would be hilarious!

~hadleysun~

lol. good question. keep reading. o.0

Pam

Imprinting trumps all else. It's the feeling of being tailor made for each other. There's still the option of choice, though, but why wouldn't one choose the perfect person? I wouldn't think Jake would forget about Bella or not want to be her friend if he imprinted on one of those mall girls.

(On an unrelated note: HA! Incorrect use of "who" in the written in Jacob line. Whom I still love, would be correct. Yes, SCORE! I'm not usually a grammar nazi [I am not capitalizing that for two reasons], but I'm not a published author.)

Bekah

It's true about that car. Maybe the cullens really aren't all that great looking, maybe Bella is just distracted by the brilliance of their cars. (i know this doesn't really work). lol. Anyway.... Well see here is my problem with your question. We are given two examples on COMPLETELY different ends to work with.

On one side of the example spectrum we have Sam & Leah & Emily. Now Sam left Leah just fine, he didn't really care about her at all. But on the other side we have Bella & Jacob & Edward. Bella still leaves the one she WOULD have been with if the world was all happy and normal, BUT she still feels her love for jacob. She wants the life she would have had. The only thing stopping her is the pain she felt without Edward. So I think that Jacob would always have feelings for Bella, but with both of them having their lovey-dovey person that would fade over time for both of them.

H.Fallon

It would be great if Jake imprinted on some chick at the mall who is on vacation from a remote-still-welsh-speaking part of Wales and just packed up and moved there with her, never to be seen or heard from (at least not in a language most of us would understand) again. That would really make my day seeing how immature and clingy he is....too bad we aren't that lucky.

ancha85

ThankGod that we aren't "lucky" in that way. Jake is AWESOMENESS itself!
What would the Saga be without him?

Renesmee{PANTS}

MEGA LULZ! also, that car is made of awesome, as is jacob, so it works.

GreenEyedBecca

#1 - For your Q for the Comments: YES, but it is hard to say this unbiasedly... I can't say more.

#2 - (Not relevant but interesting) Stephenie used only 1-word chapter titles in THE HOST, and they all end in -ed. But I think her long titles (or Jacob's, rather) in this chapter are quite humorous.

#3 - Are you going to do a BlogTV while you are in Forks???

Charlee Vale

First off, that is one beautiful car, despite who drives it.

I don't think he would forget Bella, not by a long shot, but he woudn't love her anymore. Just think of Sam and Emily. Sam really did love Leah, but now he can't. Simple as that.

CV

JudithG

I think if you asked him, he would have said that even if he imprinted, he would never have gotten over Bella. However, like with Sam, no matter how much you love someone, once you imprint, you have found your soul mate. Therefore, in my mind, the love you had for the other person almost seems like nothing compared to the adoration and love you feel for the "imprintee". If he had imprinted on someone else, like a mall girl, he would have still loved Bella, but I think it would have been more of the sibling-love that Bella feels for him. I don't think Bella and Jacob could ever have fully separated and left the other one alone. There is a lot of history between them and their friendship has gone through a lot, making it stronger.

Bayla

Keep reading, Kaleb!!!!!!! And please don't forget about the whole not-snacking-while-reading-BD thing. Good idea.
I think if Jacob imprinted on some "mall girl", he would spend most of his time with this girl, but will also remain close with Bella because they are best friends.

Jen

Ewww good luck with the next chapter. If you think the fountain of blood is bad...

Natty

Hahahahaha!!
I can't wait for your reaction to the next chapter!
HUGE surprise coming won't say more...

Nga

Well, I agree with everyone else. :)
Jacob's imprinting love would be way stronger than this love he has for Bella. But I don't think he'd leave her if he imprinted. Well, he'd stop being in love with her, but he wouldn't leave and never come back. Because, they're still best friends, right? Why would he leave his best friend just because he's got his soulmate now?
And really, the only reason he should leave right now, is because he's already hung up on Bella, so he shouldn't stick around. But if he's got his own love, I think it'd be alright for him to stay and help Bella throughout this err.. hardship of hers.

Huh. Maybe I should stop rambling now.x)
But you have to read the next chapter! You can't just stop now! :D

Brittany Hollingsworth

I think if jacob were to imprint with another girl, he would still love bella, but it would be put on the back burner if you know what I mean. I think of it as a widow getting married again. moving on.I don't think he could leave her, no matter what happened.

sarclark

i think that jake wouldnt leave bella alone. he would introduce one of the mall girls to her, and i think bella would be jealous and happy that jake finally found the person he was supposed to be with and she couldnt hurt anymore. i would hope jake would come back to bella. it would be so sweet. :)

Marilou

Kaleb,
I think that Jacob would never really LEAVE Bella for there lives are too intertwined after everything that happened in the past 3 stories. The whole lost souls thing was too much and Jacob came back in the earlier books so I truly believe they are meant to be lifelong friends.

ancha85

Jake and Bella have a bond that can never be broken. That bond may change. It may become more healthy for both of them, but it will always be there. Their friendship cannot go away. They are family more than many blood family members are. They are meant to be in each others' lives in one way or another.

Josette Carrière

The person he would imprint with would become his main focus. Look at Quil and how Claire is his main focus in life. He would still see Bella, but only as a friend.

Just have to say that I always look forward to reading your chapter summaries. You crack me up each time!!

Katrina

Many of my *favorite* parts in Twilight are little tiny moments. Like in the first book, when Edward tells Bella how long he's been 17, and she's so satisfied that she's finally getting some answers. You have yet to read most of my favorite moments in Breaking Dawn, but one of them is definitely the moment where Edward throws Jacob the car keys. There's so much understanding in that split second. Actually ANY moment where Edward communicates with someone as a result of something he's "read" - I love.

To answer your question - I believe the imprinting IS more powerful than any previous feelings....

...and I know that you awarded the Summer School passes already, but if there's ANY chance that the winner is unable to make it to Forks, I'd be willing to help out and attend in their place ;-)

Madeleine

Haha, wouldn't we all.

Sara

Knowing what happens, and it strengthens my theory, I think that the "imprintee" will prio. 1, and Bella prio. 2, since she is his best friens. Although the "imprintee" probably becomes your best friend. Hm. Sharing anyone?

No, seriously, I think that Bella och Jacob's BFF-love is strong enough, that they will be around each other forever :)

Capucine

That's an interesting question, as usual. Well, I think that if Jacob imprinted on a random girl, it might have been more powerful that his love for Bella. For instance, when Jake suggested that Quil could date other girls while waiting for Claire to grow up, this latter said that he CAN'T even consider it, because he doesn't see the girls anymore (or something like that, it's in French, so I don't have the exact quote :)).
But I think Jake would still go to see Bella because she remains his best friend. Maybe it would have been easier for him to accept Bella's love for Edward, and her choice to keep the baby. The whole thing would have made sense, as Bella said (or something like that, see my previous remark above) (:

inzaratha

Well at least the rapid aging process will help Jacob.

Cara B.

You're posts just keep getting better! I think that it would be a Sam& leah situation only intensified. I mean he would obviously be in love with the imprintee, but just like Sam he would still love the other girl. Now that I think about it, I think the poor guy would be ripped apart. He has so much love for bella, but then there would be that other girl that he also has immense feelings for. But ultimitely I think that imprinting would finally give Jacob somewhere to be besides by bella, so he can really give getting over her a decent try.

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