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Reading Breaking Dawn: Chapter 9 (Sure As Hell Didn’t See That One Coming)

May 12th, 2009 at 5:47 pm by Kaleb Nation

The song for this chapter is Remember by Big Dismal

Today is the start of that glorious time known as Summer Break, in which my free time increases rapidly only to be immediately filled again even more rapidly. As pointed out regularly in my complaint-mail, at the current rate of reading I might finish Breaking Dawn in a matter of 9 months. NINE?! That was the old Kaleb. THIS IS THE NEW KALEB WRITING. New, as in, suddenly realizing it is time to get down to business and start reading more, faster, and more often. Shorter posts? Perhaps. But more often? Heck yes. No ridiculous 9 months for me.

The whole hiding-food thing that Jacob and Billy have to do when Paul is around is no strange thing to me. I grew up in a house with five children (four were hungry boys) and two parents, and anytime my mom wanted things of the tasty nature (AKA chocolate) she would be forced to hide it or else one of us would have our paws in it. I, being the perfect child, never used any of my detective skills to sleuth out these hiding places and said treats.


I also did not have a detective suit.

This werewolf thing with eating all the time still has me wondering about who pays the grocery bills. After all, I don’t really observe the werewolves working. They always seem to be loafing around the house and eating chips or watching television, and punching each other in the nose. They’re really much like a bunch of dogs with no owner. With the amount of food they’re eating, somebody’s got to be ponying up the cash, because they certainly aren’t surviving on berries and honeycombs.

Jacob’s concerns aren’t really with that ridiculousness though. He’s got a plan. Even if the wolf pack won’t do anything about Bella and the Cullens, once again Jacob is going to get himself into a fight. Why does this not surprise me? Still, I find it so amusing that Jacob’s vision can be so distorted simply by his hatred for the Cullens. To him, the whole place reeks of a strange ‘vampire smell’ and their  house has ‘no life around the big white crypt’.


But then on page 171, things begin to get quite interesting. In fact, I was taken very much by surprise. Because, for some reason, in reading the Twilight Saga, I have not consciously realized that it has singularly been from Bella’s viewpoint. I take that back: I have realized it is from her viewpoint, but because most books are not written as Stephenie has done (as in, in the last book, changing viewpoints to an entirely different character) I haven’t really tried to delve into the heads of everyone else. Due to this, I have never seen Bella through Jacob’s eyes, or anyone else’s eyes for that matter.

This is very important. I am a guy, and this book has been through a girl’s perspective the entire time (which admittedly gets painful at times, especially when Edward has mysteriously misplaced his clothing). I have never gotten any description of Bella from any other guy’s mind: everything I have heard has come from her own, which is blatantly dull. But when Jacob describes Bella so vividly, with her eyes and her face, and his heart beating reapidly like ‘a strange broken meter’ I suddenly came to realize, in one great moment, exactly why Jacob has never given up on her.

It’s a big revelation for me, who has abhorred Jacob for a very long time (regular readers can attest to this). I have the tendency to villify Jacob because I’ve never had the chance to get into his head, and for some reason I drew comparisons between him and other guys I have met who are shallow individuals and manipulate their girlfriends using the same twisted techniques it appeared Jacob used. But getting into Jacob’s head, I realize that what he has done for so long might not be through an utter disregard of Bella and Edward, but through an enormous and exhausting desperation to ‘save her’ from the vampire and his seductive wiles.

I see this is a very vulnerable time for both Jacob and Edward. But that could be what they need. It is true they both love Bella, and there is no getting around it: they will be forced to live with this somehow, even though she is Edward’s, and Jacob should rightfully make way because of that fact. Jacob will always be this presence in their lives, because Bella isn’t strong enough to let him go. But the fact that Edward actually lets Jacob see his weakness, and his fear, and his helplessness, really means something. Edward isn’t up for a fight. He just wants Bella alive: and he seems willing to go back and let Jacob have her, if only for her to stay that way.

“You should have left Bella with me.” Jacob said.

“Yes.” It was a bit late for that though.

It is hard for me to come up with anything humorous as I near the ending of this chapter, because things have sunk into such a seriousness that it doesn’t even seem right. Edward truly is willing to do anything. How far into depression and fear must one sink in order to offer his new wife to his archenemy? Does anyone even understand how deeply Edward loves Bella, and how utterly insane he must be over keeping her alive? If everything went exactly as he is offering, he would claw his eyes out every single time Bella stayed overnight with Jacob. It would be an indescribable pain just imagining her with someone else, simply because he cannot give her children that aren’t a threat to her life. Edward is desperate. The last time he was, he nearly killed himself in Volterra. It hurts to see him this way.

QUESTION FOR THE COMMENTS: Do you think it is alright for Edward to offer to ‘share’ Bella with Jacob, even if it is to save her life?


– That picture really is a 7-year-old me 😀

– Kim Harrison, co-contributer to Stephenie Meyer on Prom Nights From Hell, wrote a wonderful blurb for my writing, which you can read here.

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156 Responses

  1. Dye793

    Omg am i first?!?

  2. bsb633

    I think that Edward was not sane when he made that offer, and if he had actually thought about it, then he would have realized that it wasn't kids Bella wanted, but this kid.

  3. i-love-star-trek!


  4. MsKittyCullen

    Awk, cute Kaleb! xD
    I remember reading this and it having a completely different feeling to any of the other chapters. Tension is thick in the air and you can really feel it..


  5. Ashley Rider

    i think that he is right in doing what he did, only because he truley loves bella, but still, it is kinda creepy…..
    he was just thinking about her saftey but…..that is still a bit GROSS!

  6. MsKittyCullen

    And what is with people wanting to be the first comments? o.o

  7. Dye793

    Now that i've gotten over the fact that i'm first…

    I guess i'm a little biased to answer your question about Edward sharing Jacob because I am on Team Jacob and I love to see them together! But teams aside I really think any man should be able to “share” there women with someone else. We're not property ya know! If a man is too self-conscious and doesn't trust his wife enough to allow her to spend time with someone else than he needs to step back, look at himself in the mirror and think or how he would feel if his wife didn't let him out anywhere. If he was a good man he would realize that he was being too selfish.

    And it's not like Edward can't just spy on them anyway! lol

  8. i-love-star-trek!

    Nah, I don't think so, bsb633. After reading some of midnight sun, it doesn't seem like Edward has it all together the way he seems to in Bella's head. He's intelligent, yes, but he can't read Bella's mind. If I was in his shoes, I would've thought the same thing and I don't think anyone, not even Edward, would have been able to figure out what it was that Bella really wanted….

  9. YetAnotherTwilightFan

    I agree with bsb633 if Edward would have realized that she wanted the child in her then he wouldn’t have offered anything to Jacob! & It doesn’t really matter what Edward offered Jacob 'cuz Bella would never go for it!

  10. i-love-star-trek!

    or not :(

  11. Dye793

    I don't know i'm just overly competitive!

  12. Kristina

    This chapter nearly broke me. I was reading it and I literally had to put it down and run to my friend, nearly in tears, because I was convinced that this was all going to end horribly, that Bella would die and Edward would die and the baby would be a monster and I couldn't DEAL. It was far and away the most physically painful chapter in the entire series.

    Edward's pain is immense. It always has been. Like everything else, he experiences things in extremes – his love for her is not human love, it is literally a part of him. Thus, his absolute pain at losing her is also not human. And Edward has never been shy at offering up his pain so that she would be better off. Think of New Moon – that time apart from her was devastating to him. Remember he said he basically just curled into a ball and let the pain have him.

    Edward offered up a choice. It's not like he would give her over to Jacob against her will, but obviously he has to ask Jacob before he can ask Bella. And as noted, it is his utter and total desperation talking. The world cannot exist without her – it's a matter of survival, and devotion.

  13. Isabel

    I'm actually surprised you didn't mention anything about Edward's state right now. I realize that it's in Jacob's point of view but the way Edward is described in this chapter is heart breaking. Even by Jacob's standards. This is one of the few chapters I wish Stephenie would write from his point of view. We all know he was wreck when he left Bella in New Moon, but I highly doubt that that compares to how he must feel now. The sorrow he's going through. The guilt he feels for hurting Bella. So much guilt that he even asks Jacob to share.
    Which leads me to your question. No, it's not really alright. But it's not like I can blame him for doing it, or wanting it. Desperation- that is what is causing him to ask Jacob to do this. Not the best or smartest choice, but when you have no other available options you take what you got and I don't think I can hold that against him. And no, it's not because I'm biased and like Edward more. If the roles were reversed I'd say the same thing.
    Apologies for the lengthy comment. I'm glad to hear you'll be posting more often C=

  14. Kathryn

    I was sick to my stomach when I read this chapter, because it’s painful to watch two equally opposite ends of the spectrum, in terms of loving Bella, because they’re desperate and they’re both heartbroken over the entire situation. Edward’s love is wholly self-sacrificing, while Jacob’s love is slightly selfish. I’m one of the few people who absolutely loves Edward, but doesn’t understand how anyone could hate Jacob Black.

    As far as your question goes: Edward is desperate, and as unselfish as his love for Bell is, he’s willing to sacrifice his own happiness. I understand why he made the proposal to Jake. He wishes he could change what is happening, what has happened and what will happen, but what he should have, would have, and could have done, is pointless now. It was always pointless. Bella made the decision that she made with no regrets, she would never take back choosing Edward, so ultimately it’s not Edwards decision if Jake gets to make puppies with Bella, it’s hers. From a girl’s perspective, of course I see it as being a bit arrogant for him to assume he has the right to make the offer in the first place, and idiotic to think Bella would agree to it, but Edward is desperate, and he knows that he’s running out of time to save her. Jake is the only one it seems with any understanding, when it comes to the way Bella thinks. Even as much as he wishes that what Edward proposed was possible, he knows Bella, and he knows her heart, and deep down inside he knows it belongs to Edward, and that it always will.

    So all-in-all, because we all know that the true nature of Edward’s character is motivated by the most selfless intentions, it’s easy to understand why he would drop to such a drastic level. It’s Edward, and Edward loves Bella more than his own life, soul, or happiness, it’s just the way he is.

  15. Amanda

    I remember crying when I read this part. I'm not entirely sure why…but I just remember bawling at what Edward was saying. I don't think it's right though. I mean, yes, that's the ultimate sacrifice to make for the person you love, but still. I think even if Edward says he's willing to do this, really he'd be killing himself every time Bella left. I also considered at this point what would have happened if Bella DID do this…and it made me hate her for a bit. I imagined if she really had done it and how much she would (once again) be hurting both of them. Admit it, Jacob would be hurt too. Bella would still be Edward's, even if she submitted to becoming a complete and total heartless traitor. But she didn't. And also, I don't think Bella wanted just any child, she wanted her and Edward's child. And Jacob could never do that for her.

  16. Kira

    No it's not alright at all! Who is he to make that decision? Simply imagine Bella's reaction if someone told her of this conversation. I think it would go something like this… “What??? *tears off Edwards head, places on Jacobs neck* Are you guys happy now?” He's acting like she's his to give to Jacob and it's appalling. Were he not completely insane with concern at the moment I would have to start hating Edward. But because he's such a mess I can let it slide.

  17. Kira

    btw…. you were an adorable child!

  18. Di

    Aw Kaleb u were cute!

  19. Lizzie Hale

    I truley hated this when I read it. But after thinking about it I thought the same way that bsb633 did. He wasnt really thinking he just wanted stop whatever was hurting Bella. And if he knew that it was only this kid that Bella wanted then I really dont think Edward would have done that.

  20. Lizzie Hale


  21. CaitlinCullen

    heck no! Bella is Edward's true love, and always will be! plus Jacob is… … something else. I really honestly don't like him. He annoys the crap out of me. So all Jacob lovers… who loved the moment when Edward wanted to “share” Bella.. get over it! The book starts with Edward and ends with Edward. Might as well face the fact that maybe Jacob is out of Bella's league! Haha… yah… I know. I'm good at speeches(:

  22. Krista

    Kaleb! You are the cutest little kid EVER! *loves* Anyways, what was the question? Oh right, ok. Well, Edward isn't really thinking straight. I usually don't cry in books, even in New Moon, I was pretty much ok. But hearing Jacob (JACOB) pitying Edward- it made me really upset. I mean, obviously he's PRETTY depressed. What was the word? “Burning man.” Oh god. I was so upset by that. So yeah. Edward is being stupid, but I wouldn't hold it against him. Yeah. Fin.

  23. Karen H

    Share? Doesn't Bella get a word? Regardless of what the boys plan, Bella wouldn't hear of it I am sure. I understand Edward is in so much pain, and is obviously not thinking clearly. This is just a part in the book that shows just how insane Edward is with pain, nothing more.

  24. beckysue

    Wow. Great post. It kinda made me cry a little.

  25. LockNessieMonsters

    one of my favorite lines ever from any book…
    …i was the second place werewolf about to ask the vampire's wife to shack up and procreate
    funniest thing i have EVER heard…i luv stephenie :-)

  26. Jessie

    I went in the “Nightmare Mansion” when I went to Virginia Beach, so it was nice to see it up here again. Still creeps me out to look at it though…
    It was probably this chapter that made me become Team Switzerland, to be honest. I didn't like Jacob that much before this, and then looking back and reading the other three books again, I realize how great of a character he is.
    I feel SOOOO bad for Edward and Jacob during this chapter. The hopelessness and despair just claw through me and I feel like I wnat to just randomly appear in the story and give them huge hugs.
    I really cannot wait for the next few chapters!

  27. Melissa

    I think it's alright for Edward to offer to “share” Bella. He loves her so much he would do anything to take her pain away and he thinks that's the only answer. He's willing to have the pain instead. I think he should know better, and know that Bella would never go for it, but when you're desperate you exhaust all other options first!

    PS. I hope your posts don't get shorter!

  28. Alba

    Oh my God, FINALLY, Kaleb!!! Finally, you're really getting Jacob's point!!! And you will understand him more and more and more each new chapter, I promise. Seriously, I'm so freaking happy that I wanna kiss you!!! lol Like really kiss you!!!

    Anyway, about Edward's petition… No, he wasn't right. He shouldn't have asked that from him. First, because it's disrespectful to Bella. Second, because it's painful to Jacob. Third, because he's asking Jacob to do the dirty job for him, which would be telling Bella about that. Fourth, because he's putting Jacob into a very difficult possition, playing with his love for Bella to make him ask her for something incredibly wrong.

    I understand why Edward asked Jacob to do that, I really do. But I feel that Edward is always trying to make decissions for Bella. Having or not having the baby is her choice too, not only his. I understand he wants her to be safe, but hell, why can't she choose to die for her baby if she wants too?

    Why did Edward leave Bella in New Moon? That was another decission he made for her. What if she wanted to be in danger with him rather than safe without him? Isn't that her choice too?

    Why did Edward take her to see her mother in Eclipse just because he didn't want her to be in Forks when Victoria was going to chase her again without telling her the real reason? Maybe she would have wanted to be in Forks, with the people who were protecting her, rather than far away and totally safe.

    Why did Edward break her car in Eclipse when she wanted to visit Jacob? Does he get to choose her friends too?

    This constant “making decissions for her” was one of the reasons why Edward didn't grow on me.

    Greetings from Spain!

  29. Ariel

    NO FREAKIN WAY JOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!thisismakingmestarttowishthatexclamationpointswerethesamesizeasW's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  30. Nicole

    Yikes. It was painful to read that. He really will do anything to make her happy, but it's so not okay to offer Jacob up for stud services. Bella totally wouldn't go for that (or any sane girl, especially one who has Edward).

  31. Anna_Loves_TWILIGHT

    I think it is both ok and not ok for Edward to make this offer. It is not ok because A) It's going to hurt Jacob ALOT and B) It is just sightly wrong.
    But it is kind of ok because it's not like he's saying, “Jacob, my wife is dying from the child she's carrying, so we're going to kill the kid and give
    Bella to you.” He is just asking Jacob to please, PLEASE make this offer to Bella and try to make her see sense. As you probably know, Kaleb,
    Edward is not entirely sane (or sane at all) in this chapter. By this point, he is so utterly insane from a mixture of pain, worry, anxiety, and depression
    (which is NOT a good combination) that he is willing to do absolutely anything to save Bella, even if it means he will have to suffer. In his point of
    view right now, Edward is probably thinking something like “Jacob offers this to Bella, she says yes, she leaves me but she lives, that is good enough
    for me, it's the only option left.” And as you will read in a later chapter, he doesnt even really believe this will work. He just has to try.

    YAY!! More chapter reviews!! But why do you get out so early?? I don't get out of school until June 24th!!!!! : ( lucky you.

  32. Kayla

    Edward's offer to Jake should show how much he loves Bella. He is willing to kill his CHILD for her. Jake should realize this. It IS painful for Edward to see Bella like this. But did Jake really have a choice when Edward almost begged him? I love both Edward and Jacob and seeing both of them in pain, is nerve-raking. But Bella married Edward and she should stay loyal and faithful to him, forever. No matter what the sacrifies are. And I believe she should keep her baby and I am happy she's been putting her foot down on this matter. I heart Bella! She's awsome!

    By the way, cute picture of you.

  33. chrystie

    this was the hardest chapter for me by far. when i first read it, i was so angry with Edward. i was livid. I couldn't believe what he was saying. but after i took a step back and thought about it, it made sense to me. Edward can't let Bella die. He's not thinking about the baby, himself, or Jacob. All he can focus on is keeping Bella alive and the rest he can figure out later. I actually compare this to when Bella goes to save Edward in New Moon. She leaves behind her grieving father, a heart broken Jacob, and pushes her own emotions aside, just to save Edward. She doesn't care if it will hurt her later or ruin her chances with Jacob for any kind of happiness at all. It doesn't matter that Edward (she presumes) doesn't love her. all that matters is that he is alive. They both desperately need each other to at minimum exist and would do anything to ensure that. So, was it right? no. it isn't. it's painful and wrong and horrible. But it was the only way the Edward could see out and so he took it. This chapter made me respect Jacob big time.

  34. Samantha

    Along with a few other people, I'm surprised you didn't key in more on Edwards pain. I for one, thoroughly enjoyed this chapter, because it was the first time we got to see Edward from a perspective other than Bella's (so… I guess I'm with you on this one, for your reasoning was the same, just with Jacob). It was nice to see Edward in pain (okay, that sounds badd…), instead of all beautiful and perfect and sparkly and amazing (gag!). I kind of reveled in his pain here, but I choked at the awkwardness of Edwards proposal… It just didn't seem right. I mean, I always knew Edward was a little off (have you seen yet that I'm team Jake?) but this was just… wrong. I felt dirty reading this from Jake's perspective, just because it was such a violation of Bella's rights! I mean, *she* would have never agreed to it, anyways! Being tossed around like a doll between guys… it's the most revolting thing that I witnessed Edward do the entire series. I was literally entirely put off by it. But, the bottom line, I enjoyed seeing the more human part of Edward, but I thought the ending was just wrong. I think Stephenie Meyer had a bit too much leeway with her creative license here.

  35. Kelly

    Ok, so I'm rambling but I don't want to edit. Hah. Enjoy!

    Edward to offer Bella–not okay, just desperation. It's not something he's really thought about, and it's not even something he can really see the results of, because there are too many things he doesn't understand: Bella's attachment to Jacob, how Jacob understands Bella, what is actually growing inside of her and its result, his own love for Bella that is only all-consuming and not entirely reasonable, and also Bella's love for him. All of these things that Edward cannot understand mix together and make for a very crazy, jumbled mess, despite that roomy head of his. Admitting that he should have left Bella with Jacob and put his love aside to keep her alive is revealing that it really doesn't matter what happens to him, just because he loves her that much.

  36. tina

    I honestly had to put the book down after reading that offer!! I was stunned that Stephenie had gone there!! I totally understand why, it just caught me off guard!! The pregnancy I expected, Edward's offer…not so much!

    So, after catching my breath and calming myself down (all while trying to remain quiet so I wouldn't wake my husband – I read the book in 8 hours after the midnight release party), I picked it back up and kept reading.

    Burning Man Edward was extremely painful to read about! But, I started to like Jake again in these chapters. He can see how much Edward really loves Bella, and he is finally starting to understand their relationship, even if he doesn't like it.

    This is why the book is so much more mature than the other three. It raises some really interesting questions – What would you do if your unborn child was killing your wife? Would you give her up or offer her to someone else?

    It wasn't right in any way to make the offer. If Edward had ever understood Bella completely, he would have known that she would be willing to die for someone she loved! Yes, he was distraught…I'll allow that, but it still doesn't make it right!

  37. Cara

    Awww, looks just like you… :)

  38. Beth C

    I don't think Edward should have asked that, but then again it is in his character to protect Bella at any costs. A question though. If I really love Jacob Black, yet want Edward and Bella to stay together can I still be on Team Jacob?
    I really don't want to be Team Edward because I don't completely like Edward. Werewolves are the ones I absolutely love!

    But I don't want Bella to end up with one. Someone please answer?

  39. Monica

    I love your photos in this post! You were the cutest little kid ever.

    Also, this is totally off-topic, but I love the photo of the Cullens' house. One of my friends was moving, and she showed me all these pictures of the house they were moving to. I thought it looked a lot like the Cullen mansion did in my mind…but I didn't tell her that because she'd think I was a dork.

    To answer your question: this whole chapter was just surreal to read. I definitely don't think it's all right for Edward and Jacob to “share” Bella. As much as I like Jake, Bella chose Edward. And even though it would be to save Bella's life, the last thing anybody needs is to complicate the Bella/Edward/Jacob triangle any further. Honestly, I thought Edward's offer was ridiculous. I'm glad Bella didn't take him up on it.

  40. FictionsMyReality

    I personally don't think it's right for Edward to “share” Bella, or feel that he needs to for that matter. He loves Bella and Bella claims she loves him. If she truly loves Edward, then the fact that he can't provide her with a child of their own shouldn't matter to Bella. The thought should have (and probably did) cross her mind before she married him, and she obviously accepted it then.

  41. Haley

    Nope–not all right. However, considering he was not exactly with it and how much he loves her, I forgive him. He's desperate and can think of no alternative to keep her alive. I'd probably think the same thing, you know? Of course, I'd hate myself for it all the same. Either way, living with myself after whatever happened just wouldn't work out. Edward needs to respect Bella's choices, even if they might be the death of her. (He'd die for her, right? It's her choice to risk her life for her kid.)
    You're right. It is excruciating to see him–or anyone for that matter–in this much pain. I think Stephenie did a magnificent job showing his pain and making the readers feel it, as well.

  42. jussie

    I think that they already share her in a way but I dont think that Edward would have been thinking straight because he can read minds and see the two of them together like that would kill him a thousend times over and I dont think Bella now knowing what sex is like with Edward would want to do it with Jake it would be like wanting Chocolate and getting carob the flavour is missing 😉

  43. fictionalxbliss

    Anser to the question: No. I understand Edward is desperate, but I'd be really angry if I were in Bella's position. It was completely uncalled for.

    I forgot how powerful parts of the book were. Aw man, now I want to read it! :)

  44. NuttyNetty

    awww it hurts me to see him like that too :(

    and as for sharing. under no circumstances is that appropriate. that is insane desperate edward cullen talking… we shouldn't pay him much attention, he knows not of what he speaks lol besides Bella wouldn't do that!!! what kind of relationship would that be?! 0_o

  45. NuttyNetty

    hahahahahahahaha xD sooooooo funny lol yea who knows maybe Jacob is.. good too. lol very hot i would imagine… awkward 0_0

  46. Dessie

    Does it matter if it is alright? Edward loves Bella so much that he just wants her to live and if she wants a kid, by darn right, she'll get one!!! Edward will give her anything as long as she lives.

  47. Sallie

    I think Edward offering to “share” just shows how much he loves her and wants her to be safe and happy. Although he should know that she would never do anything like that, it shows how selfless he is to put himself though pain so she can live. though, If it was me and he offered me up, I wouldn't be very happy…….lol

  48. cutter

    You need to finish this before Summer School in Forks Kaleb!!!

    In answer to your question, I think it shows just how desperate Edward is to keep Bella alive without having to turn her in to a vampire and just how much he hates himself for doing what he did to Bella, which he sees as (for lack of a better word) wrong.

  49. jenb

    I don't know if it was necessarily right for Edward to make his offer, but at this time he is INSANE he is not thinking clearly. He probably hates himself now more than ever for putting Bella's life in jeopardy AGAIN because of what he is. (especialy since he didn't want to make love to Bella before she was turned but he gave in & gave her what she wanted.) I was kind of weirded out & thought it was wrong of Edward at first, but after thinking about it & what he must be going through I can totally understand why he did it. It definitely shows how much Edward loves Bella and would do ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING for her.

  50. Aria

    One of the things about this world is the complete lack of COMMUNICATION!!! It's drives me nutz! if everyone would sit down and talk about their feelings rationally… life would be terribly boring for the few of us capable of doing this… anyway, no I think Edward is being disgustingly inconsiderate of Bella at this point. I must admit Edward really annoyed me during the Jacob POV. That may be because of who's POV it was. But I wanted to wallop him a couple of times.

  51. Twilight Teacher

    This is one of my all time favorite posts from you, Kaleb. I have been continually angry at Jacob as well, but for me the realization of his true intentions and unadulterated love for Bella came in “Fire and Ice.” It's hard not to feel sorry for Jacob after seeing things from his perspective. I never even considered how that might change things for a male reader; maybe my husband will finally be a little more tolerant of Jacob once he gets to this part of Breaking Dawn! He actually hates Jacob even more than you:)

  52. Heather

    No, it's not alright. At all. But what about Bella and Edward's relationship has been “right”? That's why everyone loves it, their story is one of the ultimate forbidden romances. I'm just really happy you weren't royally pissed off at Edward for offering this. I think you understand why he did this as so many fans didn't. When he said that when I first read that, I nearly cried because I could imagine just how desperate and awful Edward felt. Most people ran from Team Edward lol. I started to slowly accept Jacob at this point in the book, too. I'm not waving a Team Jacob flag, I'm still solidly Team Edward, but I grew to like him (he's a great friend to the reader during the heavy part of the book). I don't approve of his behavior in Eclipse at all, but I grew to like him.

  53. Katilyn

    I understood that Edward was willing to do ANYTHING to save Bella, even offering her up to the person he hated the most, but that was not his choice to make. Bella made her final choice when she said “I do” and declared before the world that she would be with Edward, and only Edward for the rest of her life. Therefore Edward had no right to try give her to someone else, essentially making her an adultress, even if he was trying to save her life. It's actually a little disturbing to see the lengths he would go in the name of saving her life. There is literally nothing he wouldn't do for her, which sounds romantic but in reality its a bit frightening.

  54. Steph

    Aw, dang it. I was wasting my time on HGE, not realizing you'd actually updated. You know, this whole 'updating whenever it suits Americans' thing is very annoying. I was asleep! And yes, I'm aware that you actually posted at 9 or 10 something am over here, but I'm home sick today, all right? I only just got up a little while ago.

    Ahaha. I have four brothers and a sister, so my mum had to hide food, as well. But my younger brother, one of the older ones and myself always found it. Ah, sibling bonding time.

    Oh! That picture just reminded me of what I dreamed about last night! I was trying to remember. It was zombies. My older brother (the food stealing one) recently bought Pride and Prejudice and Zombies, you see, and I've been waiting to read it.

    I've actually written the last paragraph of this comment before this one, because I wanted to leave answering your question until last. This chapter was very painful to read. Stephenie's description of Edward looking like a “burning man” is very vivid.

    No, it's not right. Not even if Bella wants it. But that's not the point. The point is it's what Edward is desperate enough to do. And I think a lot of people would do the same… were they a vampire.

    By the way, that picture of you is adorable. I wasn't nearly as cute at 7. I got my glasses that year. Not to mention, I had a fringe. Not even curly blonde hair can counteract blue oval glasses and a block fringe.

  55. Duorian

    Of course, “sharing” Bella would never be alright. That's just sick, really, and yet I don't blame Edward for making the suggestion. I pity Edward so much here. He hates himself so much right now because he did this to her, and now she's dying, and he will do absolutely anything, no matter how squicky, to save her life, even if it means being miserable. Yes, this squicks me out, but I love Edward for it. I love how much he loves Bella.

    On another note, it is true that I sympathize more with Jacob now that I can see into his mind, but he's still wrong about the Cullens.

  56. Get_at_me_Rob

    But Edward wasn't offering to share Bella in a friendly way. He was essentially saying that Bella could sleep with Jacob so she could have a baby that wouldn't be killing her, as long as she came home to Edward at the end of the day.

    But Kaleb, you're right. It's actually heartbreaking to see Edward this way. He's literally willing to do anything to make Bella happy and keep her alive. I wouldn't say that it's “alright” for him to have offered that (partly because I don't think that Bella would even go for that and partly because it would just be a ridiculously strange situation), but at the same time, it shows just how much Edward deeply cares for Bella and the lenghts he would go to for her without regard for himself or his own feelings. It's an amazing trait.

  57. Jen

    I think it is 100% unacceptable for Edward to offer Bella to Jacob. First of all, Bella isn't an item that can be borrowed or traded. She is a human being who can make her own decisions and everyone just needs to accept that. So what if her actions could kill her. They are HER choices, and Edward needs to realize that he cant just influence and manipulate her all of the time.

  58. Rach

    But Bella did figure it out. She realised that Edward had offered/asked Jacob to offer himself to her. Her reaction was to comment on how much Edward loved her. It confirmed for her that he really was willing to do anything for her.

    And it's not like Edward would have made her do it. He wasn't so much giving her to Jacob as though she were his property but merely giving his consent to something that he thought she might want. He was just looking for something, anything that would give Bella an option: that would give her what she wanted without it killing her.

  59. Bonnie

    Thank you. Lots of smiles.

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  61. (The)Victoria(Poet)

    Ofcourse not! If I were Edward, I would be a little more optimistic… Well, I will say no more.

  62. Amanda J

    I would say your on team “Bella can have Edward, So I can have Jacob for myself”, I guess it could also be described as team Switzerland as well.

  63. inzaratha

    This was a really difficult chapter to read, and I think Jacob could really now see how much Edward really loved Bella, that he was really willing to do anything to help her. It hurt that Edward did not understand that Bella loved his child and wanted it because of her love for him.
    I don't think Edward's offer was right or fair but I don't think that Edward was really sane or thinking straight at the time, he just is so afraid that this child will kill Bella he doesn't see any good outcome.

  64. Ylva

    Nah, I don't think it's alright, it's going to hurt them all. It was a noble thought though, but it wouldn't work in reality..

  65. Claudia

    I think Edward offering to share Bella, or just let her go to Jacob, is a bit awkward and very painful for him. But it just shows how much he loves her. It's pretty obvious what Bella will say, but it's worth putting the option out there, just in case. In this situation, what else can he do? Edward's pretty much “dying” of pain, fear and anger (not a good combination for a previously, and presently, suicidal vampire). It's a sad and depressing chapter to read.

    On another subject, I'm fine with you reading slowly, Kaleb. It strings “TwilightGuy” out. I don't want you to finish the book. What will happen to TwilightGuy afterwards? :(

  66. Alba

    I'm a Jacob lover and I didn't want him to “win”. Bella doesn't deserve him at all. Edward can have her.

    That said, I didn't love the moment when Edward wanted to share her. It was so disrespectful to Bella AND to Jacob AND to himself that I felt the need to slap him and scream at him. But well, he's always making decissions for Bella, so it wasn't that surprising.

  67. Kpucine

    I don't think it's alright that Edward wants to share Bella with Jacob. 1. Because I'm totaly Team Edward, and everyone should know now that they belong together. End of the story ;D 2. I think this fact that Edward actually would rather let Bella to Jacob if he knew what could happen shows us all the pain he's feeling, and how he's suffering from this situation, mostly because he knows that, to some extent, it's his fault if his one and only love is suffering that much and if he can do nothing.
    Actually, as this part of the book is from Jacob's point of view, this means a lot. What I want to say is that Jacob and Edward are archenemys, but if Jacob can sympathize and feel sorry for Edward, it means that he suffers a lot. This little piece of convo (“You should have left Bella with me.” Jacob said. “Yes.” It was a bit late for that though.) means everything and can make us feel the extent of Edward's sufferance.
    Moreover, it shows us how desperate is the situation if Edward can do nothing: he fought against vampires to save Bella, almost died in Italy, and now, there's absolutely nothing to do anymore to save her??
    So yeah, it's a depressing chapter, but one of my favorite though :)

    P.S: the photo of you young is so funny (I'm not mean here ;))

  68. Haley

    Edward should NOT share Bella with Jacob. Im all Team Edward so Jacob is just a huge smelly DOG to me, an annoying smelly dog. Bella has a better chance of dying with Jacob than with Edward. In New Moon when Jacob and Paul phased, they couldve hurt her. In New Moon when Jasper almost killed her, Edward and Emmett and Rosalie helped stop him. There was no one to control Jacob and Paul. Jasper is a new member of the Cullen family so he would learn to feed like the Cullens. And if Bella was near Jacob when he phased, she would end up like Emily, scared from her right side of her face to the back of her hand. Maybe even worse.

  69. bloodnoir

    Was he “right”? Heck no! But he was frantic to find a compromise. In his warped little head, if he could guarantee Bella normal children then he could talk her into an abortion and the threat to her life would be gone. I'm still in shock of that scene. It's right up there with the “Edward finds out Bells is preggers” and made me think worse of him, if only for a few pages.

  70. antoinette

    well Edward is not thinking right at this moment clearly. what happend artificial insemination to offer with a sperm donor. I think Carlisle is happy to help them, if she really want a child. That will not hurt him, Bella and Jacob so much. so in that way is it always wrong to have asked and offer.

    But i can understand in the hour of needs everything what could safe lives is the right think to do. even stealing a car and drive without a license if you can drive savely. and make offerings who are indeed wrong.

    And yeah Edward is a men of extremes and said of him self what a masochistic lion. And by offering this he is really true to his words. And I think Stephanie have writting this chapter how is has writen it, to show how deep Edwards love is for Bella and to let Jacob understand the true nature of thier love. So he can let Bella go easier.

  71. antoinette

    sorry for the spelling faults. is have dyslexia and Englisch is not my mother language. I am Dutch.

  72. Mylles

    NO!! sorry i will stay calm but honestly! i know woman are not property i am one, but it is Bella's desisicion anyway. thank heavens for that! if Edward were to let Jacob barrow her…what would have been the point for marrying her!? and if Bella and Edward were seperated, a point Edward made, i would burn the books in a bonfire and glare at them as they turn to ash. sorry for that but it's true

  73. Nancy B

    The thing is that it is not Edward's choice or decision – it's Bella's. Bella has made her choice. Edward and Jacob can discuss all the 'what is' they want.

  74. Hannah

    ha, ha. you looked very different when you were little.

    about the sharing thing with Bella, did they forget she was married?
    i feel sorry for poor edward that he is going insane while protecting bella

  75. Alexandra

    What Edward is doing is just sad. But i don't think offering Bella like that is just plain ridiculous. Doesn't he know Bella? The girl is madly in-love/obsessed with him that even an idiot wouldn't have missed that. And besides its just weird and gross to share a lover. LOL!!

  76. erika

    hey hey hey… such a brave move posting such comment about Edward's love for his Bella. I admire you. 😉

  77. erika

    I finished reading Breaking Dawn a long time ago… and your blog (whatever it's called) refreshed my memory. About Edward sharing Bella? that's a noble gesture considering what his love can do to Bella. Finish reading BD. That's my favorite of the twilight saga books (as of now) (except, of course, Twilight)…

  78. Alyssa

    Great analysis, Kaleb. I like this part of the book too, because you see the events and people from a completely different and “untainted” perspective (since Bella always sees Edward as perfect, which he is not).
    About the question: I feel like Edward is just trying to grasp any possibility he can find to insure Bella is as happy as she can be, even if that means Jacob sleeping with her. I think if he was able to step back from the situation he would see this is a very bad decision; however, he is too far and and pretty much at his breaking point, desperately trying to find a solution to ensure her happiness. I feel bad for Edward and that he always feels he must be self-sacrificing to make Bella happy.

  79. Snow Wight

    We all know Edward overreacts, but this time he has a really good reason. Worse, Bella isn't doing anything to help him with this. She can't. Jacob is kind of the voice of reason for this part of the book, in my opinion. He doesn't idealize Bella or Edward; no sparkles and incapacitation in the way, so we see the story from an even more heartbreaking perspective. I honestly don't know if what Edward proposed was right, but his intent was obviously only meant for good.

    Awww! No Inspector Gadget outfit, even for the perfect child. What's up with that? lol How cute!

  80. Flora

    When I read this part I was FURIOUS. No. Edward was wrong in his offer.
    Did anyone miss the fact that Edward was worried about Bella's virtue and soul in Eclipse but now is willing to offer her up for adultery? Hello? They are married. I didn't think it had to go there for us to understand Edward's pain. It was perfectly clear in Jacob's perspective (I loved that we saw so much from his point of view) and the fact that it made Jacob pause and react to the intensity of Edward's pain. There are also procedures to have someone else's child that does not include “shacking up” for goodness sake. In vitro anyone? While some might say the younger audience wouldn't understand “in vitro”, there were many other topics that a more mature mind would appreciate. I didn't like Bella in Eclipse- the whole kiss Jacob chapter really made me upset-she had just gotten engaged and she knew Edward would “see” the whole thing. She kept hurting them both and I wanted to smack her. However….this book made me love her again. I'm a mommy.

  81. Talkerwolf

    In the sense he means, me being a very immature girl, would just say, eww, are you serious? But um, as 'friends' I think it's right for Bella to be both friends with Jacob and lovers with Edward as long as it stayed that way. But as that clearly isn't what was intended, I just find it weird. And yeah, it is really heartbreaking to see Edward in such grief, it's just wrong.


  82. Mmary

    I understand how Edward could offer to share Bella, but I do not think it is right. In any way. Like they said, it's too late now.

    P.S. You need to use Evanescence “My Immortal” for one of these chapters. People reading this, don't you agree? Go suggest that song for one of the Jacob chapters, and maybe Kaleb will use it!!!

    P.P.S. Kaleb, prepare yourself. These chapters hurt. Very sad.

  83. Mmary

    And as for that picture Kaleb, lol! And my mom does the same thing. There are 7 of us, 8 with my brother home from school. And the rest of us are homeschooled. Soo, my mom always has to hide her candy. Me being the oldest at home, though, I have had many years to learn all her hiding places. So her candy stock usually gets slowly and mysteriously depleted.

  84. Wendilynn


    Its nice to see that you are starting to understand Jacob. One of the things that I love about the Twilight Saga is its exploration into all the levels of love that can exist in this type of situation. Stephenie does an outstanding job I think in treating these relationships with the depth and for me, realism to the situation.

    AS for sharing, when one is desperate to save the life of one you love, you're willing to do anything. How many parents pray to God to replace their dying child with themselves? This is no different for Edward. My favorite moment in this chapter is during their conversation on the road when Edward lets down his guard and shows Jacob how deeply he's hurting and Jacob replies:
    “For a second I was just a kid–a kid who had lived all of his life in the same tiny town. Just a child. Because I knew I would have to live a lot more, suffer a lot more, to ever understand the searing agony in Edward's eyes. ”

    This line always makes me cry. There is such depth and feeling here that always touches me.

    As for the missing food. These are fast growing boys. Regular teenagers eat alot as it is, but then you add Magical growth spurt on top of it and those bodies have to get enough energy somehow. I'm the oldest of seven kids, At one point mom had five teenagers in the house at one time… there was NEVER food past 30 minutes of going grocery shopping. It was gone.

  85. ancha85

    I totally agree that Edward and Bella MUST be together. Bella could have never chosen Jacob, even though she loved him, too.

    That being said, I just don't understand how people can constantly see the flaws of Jacob, but not those of Edward. Jacob is manipulative for a very valid reason. He doesn't want Bella, the person he loves soo much, to die or become a monster (who he believes has NO soul and would have to kill people to exist). If I loved someone, I would do ANYTHING to stop that from happening to them, just like Jacob.

    Yes, Edward is suffering tremendously and it is VERY heartbreaking to see him. Even Jacob thinks so. However, Edward overeacts ALL of the time.

    I am not saying that he is overeacting about his horror and sadness about Bella being in this state, but he is overeacting that it is only HIS fault. It is not only his fault. Bella had much to do with the situation that she is in. That's what bugs me about Edward. He is constantly blaming himself for everything that happens to Bella, and not blaming her for any of it. That is just too condescending to me. Bella has made her OWN decisions with open eyes. She is as much at fault for anything that has happened to her as Edward is. Some of the stuff is nobody's fault, yet Edward insists on blaming himself and hating himself.

    This is why he is willing to make the offer to Jacob. (which by the way, Jacob HATES). Jacob knows that Bella wouldn't even consider it (he understands her much better than Edward does sometimes). He also knows that it is just plain disgusting and something that would hurt ALL of them worse than they are already hurt. The only reason he is even willing to talk to Bella about having another baby (and not necessarily HIS), is to save her life.

    Edward did not know that she could become pregnant, if he would have, he would have never agreed for her to have a “human” honeymoon. It is not his fault that the baby inside of her is killing her. I understand him feeling guilty, but he takes it to the extreme, like he does with all of his emotions. Stephenie Meyer clearly states on her website that overeaction is Edward's main fault. (she also says that Jacob Black has NO main fault, other than being a teenager).

    I think that Edward is desperate to save Bella no matter what, and that is why he made this offer (and that is also why Jake does the things that he does people!). Edward knows it's not right, but he will do anything to make her happy and so that she will not die. However, deep inside he knows that this offer will never be accepted by any of them. If it would have happened, they would have all died inside like Bella almost did in New Moon.

    Please don't get me wrong, I love Edward and I love Edward and Bella's relationship. Edward is beautiful inside and out. It's just that his overeacting causes soo much conflict and pain in their lives. (which, of course, makes the whole Saga so interesting and great!) However, I just think Jacob is a more emotionally healthy person in some ways. He was always so positive and open and caring before he became a werewolf and before his Bella problem's. He tried to handle it the best he was able to. So times his tactics weren't the most mature (after all he is a teenager), but he does not have a bad flaw in his character.

  86. PxyShan

    I don't think it's alright that Edward offered to “share” Bella, but I can completely understand why he did it.

    Speaking as someone who is in a committed and loving marriage that is just as powerful at Edward and Bella's, I would do anything I could imagine to try and save my husband's life, even if i meant that I would not see him anymore or that he would have to “be” with someone else to get what he wanted. Thank goodness modern medicine makes that unlikely, but still.

    This is one of the times however when I get mad at how immature Edward's thought process can be. (Yes people, Edward is flawed.) He has taken much longer to get to the point of realisation of how much Bella loves him than it took her. (I have a theory behind that, but this isn't the place. )

    He should know by now that is something Bella would never go for. But hey, love isn't rational, right?

  87. ancha85

    Exactly, Exactly, Exactly Alba!! I totally agree with all of your points!!

    Edward intentions are good, but he doesn't see Bella as an equal for a long time. He “worships” her and “adores” her, but does not take her desires or decisions in to account near enough.

    Just as Jacob had to accept Bella's decision about Edward and becoming a vampire, Edward had to accept Bella's decision (or even let her HAVE one) about all of the above!!

    Edward should not blame himself for bad things that happen to Bella, when he is not the only person that causes them to happen. She is responsible, too. Also, sometimes no one is responsible.

  88. ancha85

    Here's my answer to that question –

    For Bella, I'm Team Edward
    For myself (or the 16 year old who lives inside of me!), I'm Team Jacob
    So I guess that technically that makes me Team Switzerland

  89. ancha85

    I don't think at this point that Edward hates Jacob. He realizes, I believe, that Bella and Jacob cannot help how they feel about each other, and that it is, to a great degree, his own fault that they feel this way. He also realizes that Jacob often behaves the way he does because he doesn't want Bella to die or not be human anymore. I admire Edward a lot for this maturity on his part.

    Edward starts understanding Jacob and accepting him before Jacob does the same with Edward.

    In this chapter, Jacob starts to accept Edward a little. He even feels sorry for him. He knows that he is going to want to kill him if Bella dies (though when it comes down to it, he knows he probably can't do it.), but he also starts to feel compassion for Edward's pain.

    Jacob understands that Edward would do ANYTHING for Bella.

    Jake would do almost anything for her himself. He gives up so much for her. He even goes against his own pack. He doesn't however feel Edward's tremendous guilt, and that helps him to not suggest to do something so horrible as to share her. He is willing to talk to Bella about having another baby, but he cannot tell Bella that he ihimself is willing to do that for her. He know it would just be so wrong, and he understands that Bella would never agree to that. He is just not as desperate as Edward.

    Edward's guilt causes him to make wrong decisions too much. He really shouldn't feel so guilty, because Bella has some responsibilty in what happens to her, too.

  90. ancha85

    Kaleb and everyone,

    I am really impressed by how people are finally starting to see things from Jacob's perspective. He is not a manipulative jerk like some people think he is.

    I feel so sorry for Edward in this chapter. My heart really breaks for him. Even as bad as Jacob is hurting, he realizes that Edward is far worse off than he is.

    Stephenie Meyer is a genius to be able to portray such difficult, complex emotions in these characters.
    Thank God that she loved them to much to leave them hurt.

  91. ClaireB12545

    I do NOT think that it is OK to offer to “share” Bella with Jacob. Bella wants the baby she's got NOW, not a different one. It's not fair to say “Im gonna take away the child you love, and, so you get to be pregnant anyway, you can just run along and do it with the guy whose heart you broke because of me, and who would probably be your boyfriend if I had died in 1918 like a normal person!” I mean, you just don't do that kind of thing!

    P.S. I am actually on Team Edward. This just really bothers me.

  92. Victoria

    1st, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not write small articles so you can post more often! I enjoy your deep analysis soooo much!
    2nd, That picture is so cute of you!!
    3rd, Now to answer your questons…
    I think it is super digusting if Edward shares Bella with Jacob!! I can't even fathom that! Edward just had an insane thought because he was desparate! Jacob is soooo young to! I just can't imagine a young kid sleeping with a married woman! It's like friends with benefits, nasty! Edward can find another way to save her life. Also, it is BELLA'S CHOICE of what she WANTS to do, not Edwards, even if he is madly in love with her. I love him so much, but I have never seen him act in this way. He is always so strong, but know he's going to far with this whole pregnancy thing. Ugh! Another reason why I don't like Breaking Dawn…the characters are nothing like themselves.

  93. MeyaRose

    Maybe it's because I'm a woman, and I have a strong maternal instinct, (stronger than a lot of the girls I know, and I'm not even a mom,) but Edward and Jacob and Edward really pissed me off at this part. They just couldn't grasp the fact that Bella wanted a child that was growing inside her that she created with her husband on her honeymoon. The fact that it didn't even enter Edward's mind that it was a baby, just that it was a threat, really bothered me, because it's his baby too. I felt pretty much the same thing Bella did when he called it “the thing.”… and the whole idea of trading one child's life for another is despicable, not to mention it's just nasty that Edward was wanting to pimp Bella out… (I know that's not exactly what he was doing, but that's how I see it.)

  94. Heather

    I agree with MeyaRose with the points she made. It wasn't the fact that Bella wanted children, because she never wanted children in the past. It was the fact that it was Edward's child that made her want to fight so hard for it. If it were Jacob's child, I highly doubt she would have felt the same. The fact that Edward couldn't understand that annoyed me to no end. I understand that he was worried about Bella and wanted to keep her alive, but he was going about it all wrong. You don't offer your wife to another man, even if you do want to keep her alive. And even if by some small chance she DID happen to take him up on the offer, he wouldn't be able to live with himself afterwards. Every time he would look at Jacob with Bella, he would picture the two of them together, which would slowly drive him even more insane than he already was.

  95. Hillary

    I hurt so badly every time I read the description of Edward's face in this chapter…and being a girl, lol, I have indeed cried over Jacob's description of this “burning man.” You give me some more insight I hadn't thought of, as well. I understand how the humor at the end was hard to come by. It was a heavy chapter, and I warn you, there is more weight and sadness to come.

  96. Natty

    Totally. Not. Ok. What was Edward thinking??? I mean, Bella isn't his to give. She is her own person for crying out loud! He has absolutel no right to offer her up, but you have to know she's going to say no anyway, right? I mean, it's totally rediculus! She would never do anything like that, and anyway Edward is just being stupid thinking she could be happy with any other baby. What. An. Idiot. (Not that I don't totally love Edward most of the time. I mean, he is usually so wonderful! I don't know what was going through his head other than pure desperate-ness. (And possibly insanity caused from said desperate-ness))

  97. Natty

    oops I mean “absolutely” not “absolutel”

  98. Kel

    Yes, as we have all agreed- Edward is not at all sane at this point in the book. I got so friging frustrated by him, and I love Edward. Desperation and depression can make people do insane things, his thoughts must be all muddled up and just feeling totaly out of touch and control of himself. I frequently say stupid things when I get upset. (HA- let's be clear that I have never come to Edward's extreme of offering someone else's 'stud services…') I can see where he is coming from at least, even if it is wrong and inconsiderate to Bella. There are flaws in everyone.
    If Edward was not in these books (the shock horror), I dont think I would be so completely annoyed by Jacob that I find I usually resort to. Jacob has good sides- he's funny and tries very hard to get what he wants etc, but…he is the typical teenage boy. Thats why he annoys me. Lol. Edward is past the immaturity, such a wonderfully decent person, etc (YES he has his moments too- making decisions for Bella is one of them… Over reacting…), but he just seems more extraordinary than Jacob. An unusal find. Different. I guess thats what im trying to say….?

    …yeah I dont really know. =]

  99. Natalie

    I was completely shocked at first that Edward is willing to share Bella with Jacob. Then I realized it was all he could do at this point. It is his most desperate and painful hour. And he is willing to take jealousy over loss, knowing exactly what it will be like if Bella dies. I was not so surprised by his offer. Not really. I completely understand why he asks Jacob for this. And seeing how Bella (stupid idiot) IS with Jacob, how she smiles with him around and clings to him, he knows that maybe she would want this anyway…to have both of them when it really comes down to it. He cannot bear to lose her. But he also wants to give, allowing her to have, everything she wants, no strings attached. Now THAT is a man, baby! Naive but selfless. But Bella's reaction was so stupid. Oh, that, no thanks, Jacob, it's okay. I would have SCREAMED for Edward to come back. She not only wants a baby….but she wants Edward's baby…not Jacob's. That's the difference.

    It hurt me so endlessly when I read this chapter, every time I read this chapter. When Jacob feels pity for Edward, you know something is wrong. His “burning man at the stake” face makes me weep so hard I can't breathe for days. It crippled me to see Edward so insane with depression. I couldn't tolerate it. I still can't.

  100. Kel

    Now, why couldn't I write something as great you??

    I agree with what you said.

  101. Samantha!

    an awesome and insightful post yet again kaleb!

    i really liked this chapter because you got to see everything that was happening from jacobs point of view for the first time!
    i don't think edward really knew what he was offering at the time, because i can't imagine how he would deal with bella being with jacob, even if it was for a short time. seeing edward like this, like jacob put it, 'like something was burning him from inside' ( i know its not the exact words !) really touched me and showed me just how much he cares about and loves bella. obviiously more than anything , ever. it was pretty touching…but i was oddly annoyed with edward during this part of the book. i kept screaming 'can't you see that she doen't want just any baby, but THAT baby?!' i was very frustrated that edward couldn't get past the idea that Bella was in danger to see that he wanted to kill his own child that bella desperatly wanted. but it also made me love edward that much more, seeing how much he cared for bella…

    anyway, i really agreed with what you said about the chapter!
    and personally i would rather have to wait a while to read your long in depth posts than get meesly paragraph everyday!
    take your time, thats why everyone loves what you say about the books, because you don't just speed right through them

  102. Ellie

    Kaleb, if you liked reading the story from somebody else's point of view, you'll love reading the Midnight Sun's draft. Edward's point of view of Twilight is truly amazing! There you'll see more of how Edward feels for Bella. I really hope Stephenie decides to finish it up soon!

  103. Jacqueline

    I was shocked for about 5 seconds and then I realized his character. Edward at one point wished it was a shotgun wedding when Charlie thought Bella was pregnant. He wished she was because he wanted to give her things and not take them away. He at the time didn't know a vampire male could reproduce with a human girl. It was easy to assume that since two vampires couldn't then he couldn't give her children either. Or so one would think. So now he's NOT only shocked that he could but quite upset that it could kill her. So there is a bit of dark irony in that. Sad irony. Edward is insanely depressed at this point and is wiling to keep his wife alive at any price but also once more he wants to give her what she wants. He doesn't want to force anything because he wants her to have free will and he's been controlling before over what's best for her for a brief moment in eclipse. But he's learned that isn't the best way either. He can't make her give her child up and he wouldn't want to in a sense. He wants her to give up the child that is killing her but wants her to be able to have her wish, and still let her have her own children. Bella once said to him when he wished they were getting married because she was pregnant, that if they wanted children they could always adopt. So to speak. Well now Bella is a mother already in her head. She's pregnant and wants children of her own. Edward sees this and goes to his enemy for help. It seems logical in his bizarre head. But is it alright? I don't know if it's alright but Bella appears to be dying. What else could an insane person think of at time like this? He loves Bella enough to offer her as he puts it “puppies”. Oh and just so you know you'll be surprised throughout this book. I won't give spoilers but I know the whole thing shocked the heck out of me.

  104. inzaratha

    I agree. I felt that pretty strongly too.

  105. Mich(elle) C.

    I love your blogs because you're so observant & opened. Unlike these crazy obsessed girls who just pick a random side. So, anyway, in that exact chapter, I believe that Edward states that no one can hate him more than he hate himself. Correct me if I'm wrong. Edward is amazing but I don't think anyone can be iligeble to love anyone if they don't respsect themselves. In this case, Meyer just wants to demonstrate how much Edward feels sorrow. This is a fictional book. I think that Edward is very desperate. I'm not sure by what you mean by 'is it alright'…But, if you're asking “is it right”..then, it depends. If it's what they all agree to [which they don't], then it can be right.

  106. Heather

    I… I… I…
    (sigh) okay. this is something that's hard for me to describe.
    When i read the part about “having puppies”, I just sat in shock for a few minutes. seriously.
    words can't describe how messed up that is…
    the thought of that actually happening… it's just a concept i can't accept. i refuse to accept it.
    …[lol. realize, that after reading BD six times, i'm still just sitting here, staring at the screen in shock. again. gahh! it's just SO wrong!]

  107. dsolo

    Hi Kaleb, First, congrats on the blurbs. I'm doing my pre-order tomorrow. Second, I never hated Jacob, and you really should read Being Jacob Black on Stephenie's site to get more insight on him. SM constantly makes the point that Jake is a 16 year old boy, and he makes mistakes. Her extras on the New Moon site give your more insight into what exactly Edward goes through without Bella. He really is having a nervous breakdown over the thought of losing her, and it's making him think crazy thoughts. He's nuts to think Bella would ever agree to that. Obviously, she want this baby because it's Edward's, not because she always wanted a baby (that's Rosalie and Esme).

  108. ancha85

    Sorry, but your comment is so not true. Jacob never hurt anyone when he phased. He was the most controlled of all of the werewolves. Also, the werewolves were only out of control the first few months after they first started transforming.

    When Sam hurt Emily, it was an accident. It would have never happened if he wasn't such a young “wolf” at the time. No ohter member of the pack ever hurt anyone, only protected them.

    Even Edward recognized that Bella was safe with Jacob and with all of the wolves. If she wasn't, he never would have let her around them, no matter how much she wanted to be around them.

    I'm sorry, but you are just letting your prejudiced toward Jacob color your opinion.

    You have a right to your opinion, but Jacob is not dangerous to Bella, just the opposite.

  109. Clara Renee

    I think edward is a jerk in this book, first he calls his own baby a thing then he's planning on Jacob having babies with Bella without thinking about what she wants. And what she wants is this baby. Though I dont like Edward in New Moon or Eclipse either +/ what happen to the Edward we all know and love from Twilight?

  110. a_girl_who_reads_twilight

    hei kaleb…..this is my first tym and im so glad….

    well,to answer your question…i dont think so….he shouldnt have suggested that…because he knows it will hurt bella's feeling her husband want to throw her away or something like that….like he wants her to be shared even thought its for her own good….and edward should understand that its not any baby bella wants..it's THEIR baby she wants….

  111. Yoko

    Oh yes, this is a VERY depressing chapter….. By the way, I probably would've respected you quite a bit less if you tried to joke at a point in the story like that one. So thanks for that….. I can't say that Edward is wrong in asking Jacob to give her a baby. He is, as Jacob points out, literally, crazy over this. It's like pleading insanity in court. Is he wrong, if right and wrong suddenly mean something very different to him? Edward's making all kinds of sick and twisted requests in this chapter. Like making sure that Jacob would kill him in the event of Bella's death. Seeing how crazy he is, even through Jacob's eyes, is too much, and it very effectively emphasizes how much pain he is in. I agree with some of the other posts; this chapter makes breathing normally a bit difficult.

    But unlike some of the other posts, I have rarely condemned any of those three (Bella, Edward, or Jacob) for their actions. It's all too easy for me to put myself in their shoes, and it's easy for me to see their line of thinking. I've always loved Edward AND Jacob because of that. I never thought of Jacob as manipulative (even though he did a lot of that in Eclipse) because he wasn't doing it just to do it or just because he liked inflicting pain on others. He was a 16 year-old werewolf who was desperate to save the life of the girl he loved. In comparison with Edward, Jacob can seem like a jerk, but you have to remember that he doesn't have Edward's century-or-so of life experience. Which brings me back to how much pain Edward is in. Jacob may never have suggested something like that, but maybe it's because he hasn't been alive long enough to feel such anguish. Like he says, “For a second I was just a kid…Just a child…I would have to live a lot more, suffer a lot more, to ever understand…” So is it alright? I think that no one really has the scope to answer that question definitively because most of us are probably much more like Jacob than Edward (what with the eighty-odd years head start).

    I will save some of my comments for later, seeing as they would spoil the next few chapters….But, boy, there sure is a lot to discuss….And I am a little bit sorry for taking up so much room; I tend to ramble… : )

  112. Grace

    I feel the exact same way about Jacob. I had liked him before, but after all the drama that had happened in Eclipse I really did not like him at all. However, I came to really like him after reading Breaking Dawn. I think it was truly interesting to get inside another character's head, especially to see why Jacob acts the way he does. I think the problem with me was that I was constantly comparing him to Edward, when it's like comparing apples and oranges. Edward is five times Jacob's age and has lived through a lot more, naturally they should be different. It was good to see how he felt, and his chapter titles are hilarious.

    I could really feel Edward's pain in this chapter. It was truly heart-wrenching for me. He is so desperate that he would let Bella use Jacob for children. Not only is he disregarding Jacob's emotional health, but also his. I don't think it was right, but if i had Edward's state of mind at that moment (his demon spawn is killing his beloved) i think I would be desperate enough to do that. I would have loved to see this chapter from Edward's point of view. Actually, anything from Edward's point of view is excellent. I find his mind much more interesting. I hope Stephenie continues Midnight Sun.

  113. Grace

    Oh and with your candy finding, I know all the secret spots. But don't delve too far into your parents drawers, or you'll find things you really really do not want to. I am scarred for life.

  114. matias

    goodness…this post yesterday has only earned few comments and now its flooded im truly regretful that i did'nt comment yesterday…

    well answering you question

    no,i believe its not that okay for edward………
    but thinking that this would make her wife happy and safe..
    (well of course bella won't be.that's why my word was thinking not knowing)
    he is ready to trade all of the pain in imagining(or maybe knowing)that bella was sleeping with someone
    for his wife.

    ouch ouch..

    now i feel super impressed by edward.

    but- ahem- im a girl
    like what jacob said if i were bella i would also punch you-no matter how it hurts-if you asked or said that to me.
    well most specially offended by my husband for suggesting that..and the confusin of feeling for so much gratitude that
    he would conquer or pass the boundary of that pain to make me happy and safe ..

    still its wrong.

    and as bella pointed out she doesn't even care of having a baby before.
    its well..we all know abortion is a grave sin..(well of course this is a not the very normal situation)
    but its already there.and what can you do with the feeling of the mother towards of what she's carrying.

    anyways kaleb your super cute!!!!!when you were seven i mean,

  115. Malin

    I know many readers were really, really mad about Edward's idea sharing Bella. In normal life I never would support such an idea, but I totally get Edward's point of view. Edward didn't care as long as Bella would be alive. He would have sacrificed everything for her by assuring that she would live. If that would include sharing or loosing Bella to Jacob – so let be it. It shows – as you also mentioned – the deep love from Edward.

    In the long run it would hurt Edward like hell and the simple idea probably drives him crazy even while offering it. It must have been one the hardest moments in his entire life. I think some circumstances simply have a different meaning compared to the normal human beings. I totally suspected that Nessie would turn out to be a demon baby – no one knew what to expect! I don't think you can blame Edward for giving up his own happiness to ensure that the love of his life is happy. That simply shows how deep, selfless and good Edward is. It was heartbreaking to read!

  116. Becky

    Ok I know you posted this two days ago and probably havn't been back, but I had to comment on it. First I have to say it's nice seeing that guys are willing to read this book even if it might be a lil girly for them, but all the same it's kind of sexy 😀

    Your question at the end though. I think it was alright for Edward to do that, because of his undying love for Bella. He doesn't want to lose her, and what he offered to Jacob was all he could do to keep her in his life. What I thought was wrong aout it, was Jacob accually went through with it. Even though Jacob thought it was crazy, he still went to Bella and “asked” her about it. That's the part that I didn't like. Of course it could be the fact that I'm not a big Jacob fan, but still. Any guy in his right mind shouldn't really be willing to “share” another guys wife, no matter what the cost or how they feel.

  117. Alba

    I totally agree with you, Ancha85.

    That was just an absurd comment from a Jacob hater.

    But you forgot to mention that Jacob actually saves Bella more times than Edward. No one take that into account because it's Jacob, but oh well… Even Edward said so himself.

  118. Alba

    I absolutely agree with you.

  119. E

    Umm… no offense, Kaleb, but I always knew that about Jacob… and I'm on Team Edward…
    So… I've been a bit annoyed at all the Jacob-bashing comments triggered by your own slight dislike of him in your posts. I never get HOW people can hate Jacob, ESPECIALLY after BD. It makes no sense to me. But then, that's just my opinion.

    To answer your question: As long as Edward didn't force Bella to do anything, which he didn't, I don't think it's a big deal what he's doing to Bella. In all honesty, it's a lot meaner to Jacob. He gives and gives and gives and gives (face it, he does, including coming to the wedding) and Edward and Bella just keep asking for more. So… I'm upset about what they did to him. And you said Edward “offered”–he didn't. He practically forced. Again, I'm on Team Edward, but I can recognize that.

    Poor Jacob.

  120. E

    I think… it was a lot more unfair to Jacob than it was to Bella. Don't get me wrong, I'm a total feminist, and 100% Team Edward, but just look at what it does to him. He's just going to get ripped up–again–and Bella will be too distracted by the baby and Edward to worry much about him. He gives a lot to Bella–even to Edward, though of course it's always for Bella whether or not Edward wants him to do it or not–and he's just left out in the cold. I think Bella should understand Edward's motives, and maybe he knows that, but Jacob will just get rejected again.

    Poor Jacob.

  121. E

    (Sorry, I don’t know how both of those got up there. I could have sworn that one of them had gotten lost.)

  122. LauraIS

    Wait to see Midnight Sun.the edward's mind is so fascinating…a little bit scary but amazing.i'm so sorry that stephanie meyer will never finish it…or maybe she will.
    this was a difficult situation for everybody but i liked rosalie because she seems to have a soul after all…when i was reading about edward and his reactions it was really hard for me because i understood his pain and his desperation of loosing bella.i was sorry for jacob too…and for bella even if i was shocked of what the baby is doing to her.i don't know what to say about edward.how desperate u have to be to do this.i understand but i don't understand in the same time…

  123. Brianna

    I love the Jacob chapters, too. as for the question, i honestly couldn't believe that edward did that, but it makes sense in a twisted way, you know? But i don't think edwdard was thinking clearly, and it would have completely ripped everyone involved up. It's just a bad idea all around, i think.

  124. RosalieC

    Never actually thought about the fact that Bella might accept Jacob/Edward's offer to have kids. You put a vivid image in my head when you said something about Bella spending the night with Jake.
    And I guess it's not exactly fair to do that to Bella or to Jake. If you put yourself in Bella's shoes, that would probably make you feel extremely guilty. And Bella being Bella she would fell guilty towards Edward and towards Jake.
    It's not fair to Jake because as much as he loves Bella, he's been turned down by her many times. and as he has pointed out, he would be able to picture that life and have it all go where?
    Plus the whole topic opens up the whole love triangle of Eclipse again. As much as we love that dealio, who really wants to have a rerun of choices and crap like that!

  125. Alexandria

    I don't really think that Jacob and Edward understand what Bella wants. They really don't know what she is feeling. If Bella wanted to have Jacob's child she would have married him. I can't believe that he woul even suggest sharing Bella with someone else. No women really wants to be shared.

  126. Mandi

    Alright, so that picture of you is ADORABLE! I know how you feel about this chapter. it really was painful wasn't it? I felt really bad for Edward seeing him in enough pain to sink to that level. As for the grocery thing…I have been wondering the same thing….

  127. ancha85

    So true Alba, So true…

    Glad to have someone else on here to help me defend Jake. Too many people see him through “Edward-tinted” glasses, which distorts him somewhat.

    Hey, do you live in Spain? I am a Native Speaker Spanish teacher in Texas!

    Es un placer conocer a alguien mas que mira lo bonito que es Jacob Black!!

  128. Kayla

    I don't think it was a good idea for Edward to offer up Bella like that but it is kinda an Edward thing to do. He would do ANYTHING to keep Bella safe, and most of the time, happy : )

    I can see why Bella wants to have this baby though. It's not about just the fact that it's Edward's or that it's a living thing (both contribute I'm sure though), it's that she already loves this baby like she loves Edward or Jacob. She couldn't do anything to hurt it even if she wanted to. She is already a loving, caring mother, and she won't let anyone hurt her baby.

    If Jake did accept his offer it would just end up hurting all three of them even more and we all know Bella would beat herself up over it. Then Edward would feel guilty. Finally, we're back to the whole eclipse love triangle thing. And that was painful for everyone.

    It's just a bad idea for Edward to offer to share Bella with Jake. It would hurt all three of them and it would ultimately never, ever work out. It's completely unfair to Bella, Edward, and Jacob. Plus, shouldn't Bella get a say in this. She may be irrational sometimes, but I would have made every one of her decisions just the way she did.

    P.S. Sorry for the book : )

  129. Meghan

    Okay…I totally understand where you are coming from. I was really irritated with Jacob before Breaking Dawn, too. I'm not saying that I forgave him…because he was really stupid in Eclipse…but I understood his reasoning better and felt bad for him. I still think Edward loves Bella more, because they are meant to be together…that's just the way it is. Jacob is so not meant for Bella. At all. You'll see what I mean later…
    …Anyhoo, to answer your question, Edward was being really stupid in this chapter. It is completely wrong and sick to offer your WIFE up to some guy you've hated for months and months. I seriously felt like causing Edward serious pain here. And I threw my book at the wall. Then I picked it up and apologized to it. Hehe 😉 He was seriously ticking me off though. I don't care how desperate he is, he should not offer that…that's just horrible. Crazy Edward freaks the crap out of me.

    Oh and also, it was hilarious when you said it was awkward when Edward seemed to “mysteriously misplace his clothing.” Hehe :) I started cracking up.

  130. i-love-star-trek!

    this whole thing reminds me of this movie I saw once: I think it was called “indecent proposal” I'm not sure. It had Demi Moore in it. She was married to this architect and they had this whole “dream house” planned that they would build together. But anyway this rich guy told them that if he could be with Demi Moore for one night, then he would give them a million dollars to build the house. After a lot of arguing, they accepted the deal and they got the milli. But it completely ruined their marriage. And that's just with money.
    But Anywhoo, I keep putting myself in edward's shoes: If my husband was dying and the only way for him to live was to sleep with somebody else, would I let him do it? HECK YES! Is it right? NO. Would it kill me? PROBABLY. Maybe I wouldn't quite offer him up the way Edward did with Bella, but I sure would be trying to convince my husband to do it. Not everything is all black and white, especially not when someone you love is at stake.
    I'm not saying what Edward did is right, but try to put yourself in his shoes, you know? He probably knows that this whole thing is beyond wrong and terrible, but if wrong and terrible saves Bella, why not give it a try?
    On the other hand, I can't believe that this was the only alternative that Edward saw. Is he really thinking that this is the only way that Bella could live?

  131. Emily

    First of all, let me say that I totally do not believe that that is you at seven years old. It doesn't look anything like you. You lived in Texas, right? Why would you be wearing a big parka-like thing in Texas? Unless you were a beekeeper. At seven years old. I always knew you were super-talented, but… So I totally don't believe that.

    Before I say anything, I'm a Team Jacob fan. I totally sympathize for him. I don't think it's fair for Edward to offer to share Bella, even if it is to save her life. I mean, Jacob is Bella's soul mate in the real world, the way it is supposed to happen. It would have to be unspeakably painful for him to get a piece of Bella, and only to save her life, and then have it ripped away because Edward is selfish. It's kind of interesting too, because Jacob thinks of it the opposite way. That it's not fair to Bella.

    I also believe that though selfish, Edwards intentions are good, and that if Jacob were in Edwards place he would do the same thing. I don't really know what Edward would do. They are both working for the same thing. To save Bella. I think that overshadows everything else.

    Is it right for Edward to 'share' Bella. I don't know. It depends on who's side your on. Both perspectives are very valid. But in the end I'm going to have to no. If Jacob gets hurt after being used to save Bella's life, Bella would be remorseful and think it was all her fault, which would not help the situation at all.

    That thing at the top was NOT a hater comment. I totally love you, but I still don't believe that is you.

  132. Shaddin

    I don't agree, but I understand. Edward wants to save Bella's life no matter what it takes.

  133. krisYEE

    i JUST finished this chapter this morning.

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  135. twilight magnets

    The usual answer would be “NO”, Edward should never had allowed her to share Jacob with Bella, But if we look into the mind of Edward, what he was doing was right. He loved Bella and could not see her lonely all her life..

  136. Aubrey

    This is the part where I start to get really angry with, not Edward, and not Jacob, but Bella. In all of the books thus far Bella is appalled by how selfish she is, and every time I disagreed with her. I never once believed she was truly selfish. Until this part of Breaking Dawn. Bella isn't blind, she can see how much this is hurting everyone- she is slowly killing Edward and continuing to tear apart Jacob. And it is almost guranteed that she will not survive this pregnancy and will most likely look forward to a prompt and painful death. Bella is being selfish. And as much as it pains me to say this….when I first read Breaking Dawn I became so angry with Bella that I had to stop reading for a full 3 days before I could calm myself down and pick it up again. I still believe that Bella was acting almost inhumanely cruel to everyone, but I realize how important it was that she stuck with her gut. Everything turns out alright in the end, just like it should.

  137. Jackie

    I agree. Nice point of view.

  138. Jackie

    This is a really heartbreaking chapter like everyone has mentioned. I personally don’t think it is ‘alright’ for Edward to share Bella with Jacob. This is very hard to explain. But I understand why he did offer him that. Right now in this chapter it is probably one of Edward’s lowest points in the series. He really is desperate to find a way to save Bella. He wants to give her everything and the fact that he can’t give her a normal healthy baby is killing him. That’s why it results to Jacob. Even if this ‘offer’ really did happen and Bella went off with Jacob to sleep with him to have a child. I don’t think Bella would agree. For one thing, she is devoted to Edward, married to him! She made her choice and she likes the fact that she’s having Edward’s child, not Jacob’s. Maybe that was a possibility at some point in the series but now it isn’t. Edward is desperate and he will go to extreme lengths to protect her, that’s what makes girl’s go crazy over him. It’s a heartbreaking chapter to see him at this point but it shows just how much he loves her.

  139. Lorie Scott

    I must say, first of all, that I still HATE Jacob. No matter what, I always have, and always will.

    That aside, my answer is this; Edward's offer was out of desperation, like everyone's been saying. He was not all there, and if he thought about it later(and more importantly spoke to Bella about it, who would have all but bitten his head off), he would realize he'd made an awful mistake, and his offer was, in his own words, utterly absurd. I realize Jacob still loves Bella, but he really should have given up long ago. Bella loves EDWARD. She has made this clear many times, plus a final time, by MARRYING the man. I also gotta say that Edward has always been willing to give up Bella, if it meant her safety and living, no matter how much pain and suffering it cost himself. Jake should really take that into account, and get it through his thick skull, that if he truly loved Bella he would leave her permanently, which is not giving up, but more like bowing out gracefully, and letting her have a happy life.(On another random-er note, it has always bothered and irritated me that Jacob didn't die in Eclipse. That would have made everything WAY more interesting, and way LESS irritating. Oh well though. Wishful thinking on my part. Back to the subject at hand…) So ANYWAY, to answer the question you posed Kaleb; yes; I think it was total insanity on Edward's part to offer what he did, but I understand where he's coming from. And like most every other comment says, if he knew how Bella really felt, things would be different. Bleh. I really get into a tizzy when I write long, trivial comments like this.

    (AND NO HATE REPLIES PLEASE. This is just my personal opinion, and there is no law that says I must pity Jacob Black, side with him, like any aspect of him, which I don't, OR not share any negative opinions I have of him. So if you're deeply upsetted by what I've written, GET OVER IT, and move on with your life. 😉 Have a good day all!)

    ♥Team Edward♥ Long Devoted Twilight Saga Addict

  140. alex

    Very ture

  141. Princess Potter

    Congrats on the first two blurbs for your book! and LOL about the fact that both authors' names start with a “K”! btw, I've already made up my mind to read your book ages ago, but seriously, IT WAS COMPARED TO HARRY POTTER!!! How could you NOT be psyched about that? I wanna read it now soooooooooo much more! I gotta add, it always irks me when people compare other books (Twilight anyone?) to Harry Potter, but since it really does seem like a good book and it's your book, so I'm OK with it!

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  143. Elena

    Well I see both sides of this problem. Its true Bella really can't give up Jacob, but on the other hand it's like trying to share a ham sandwich it just can't be done. If they 'share' Jacob is always going to want more then just friendship but Bella wouldn't due that to Edward. It hard to say if they should share or not, personally I think Jacob could do a bit better then Bella. No offence to Bella fans but she's whinny and overly needy, it seems if Edward left her side for five minutes there would be fifteen pages of text stating how lonely she feels. I like Bella but she gets annoying… sorry I got sidetracked there.

  144. Melly K

    Hi! New poster here, but this chapter is actually one of my favorite out of all the books and so I had to speak up.

    This chapter actually redeemed Edward in my eyes. I was getting more and more disallusioned with his controlling, obsessive behaviour and to me he didn't “offer Bella” to Jacob. He wasn't treating her like a piece of property. he was GIVING HER A CHOICE. He knew she wouldn't go for it. He knew that Jacob wouldn't go for it. But he wanted so badly to give her what she wanted, even if it was something that he didn't want, didn't understand, and was potentially dangerous for her, he was willing to let her go to Jacob for that. I however did not think he should have made Jacob ask, although I understand why. This chapter showed that he does not have it together all the time, he does not ahve the answers, and he grasps at straws just like the next person. HE WAS MAKING A NATURAL RESPONSE. (yes I am aware this is a fictional book). This chapter was so raw, so real, showed their flaws and their nature and it was truly breathtaking to read.

    One of the reasons I really like this series is because I see several similarities between Edward adn my husband, with the love and devotion and protectiveness, and yes, a bit of the obsession. When I took the chapter out of the book and played it in my head replacing myself and him in those parts, you know what? I think he would have done the exact same thing. Put himself on the sidelines for me to have something that was so desperately important and personal that nothing else would replace it. yes it's not a perfect fix, and he realizes it, but at the risk of losing Bella would it be enough for her to let go of what she is clinging to?

  145. Melly K

    I really really agree here. (on the maternal instinct part). Edward was really on my bad side at this point in the book, and Jacob was too, honestly.

  146. tia_jb10

    if that was the only way to to keep her alive like the last result yes but at the moment he said it he was goin crazy she was like dying and he loved her so much it was making him think things he would regularly but if he were thinking in the rite frame of mind maybe but no not in that situation

  147. grace

    omg i love that quote too ROCK ON

  148. babybott330

    I know I'm totally late in this post, and I'm not posting to every chapter catch-up, but I have to touch on a few.

    First, it was nice to finally be >forced< to see things from Jacob's point of view. As he says later, which is no longer considered a spoiler… ' You know things are bad when you feel guilty for be rude to vampires.' It's nice that he's willing to finally drop all his bias, which makes me like him much more as a character.

    Also, as I only glazed over the comments, I'm sorry if I missed someone's mention, but…
    Kaleb, what is a 'reapidly' beating heart, exactly? LoL

    I hate to place a disclaimer that I'm only poking fun, but some people get crazy when they think I'm 'being rude.”
    Just kidding, guys.

  149. Tori1420

    SHARE no way……. but then again!!!=)

  150. Ashley


  151. Mrs. Jacob Black

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  153. Maandacs

    Very wrong. Clearly he isnt thinking right. It is not up to him to decide who gets to keep Bella or takes Bella home. If i remember correctly it was Bella who was saying YES to him at the first book and not him . So it is Bella's say whatever it is she wants in her life or a relationship will not work at all. So he has no right to decide for her. And what could Jacob do with this situation anyway. nothing at all.

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